Police: Teen Didn't Want to Go to School, Shoots Family

[Eugene]

Source: Associated Press

Police: Teen Didn't Want to Go to School, Shoots Family

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Mar 2, 2016, 12:11 PM ET

A 16-year-old boy got into an argument with his family when he didn't want to get out of bed and go to school and he shot his grandmother, a younger sister and a 6-year-old nephew, authorities said.

Metro Nashville Police said in a statement that the boy's mother and grandmother told investigators that he got angry Tuesday when they told to him to get up. He made threats and went to a closet, got a handgun that nobody in the household knew he had and started firing inside the family's east Nashville apartment, police said.

His 67-year-old grandmother was struck by bullets at least twice and the nephew and 12-year-old sister suffered graze wounds. The boy's 2-year-old sister and mother were in the apartment, but neither was injured by the gunfire.

The boy fled on foot and dropped off the gun at a nearby apartment, police said. The teen was captured a short time later near railroad tracks.

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[Matrosov]

1. Why wasn't the family armed?

[bluedigger]

7. First thing I thought of.

[merrily]

2. Are reporters that damn stupid? No one shoots a six year old because the

shooter doesn't want to go to school. Six year olds don't force 16 year olds to go to school.

The dumbing down of America is working. Close down the fscking charter schools, willya? Or at least stop giving them tax dollars.

Where I live, where the first public school in the country opened its doors, students used to learn to speak Latin and Greek. Now, we don't even teach kids to think.

[Arazi]

6. He didn't want to get out of bed. Have you ever had younger siblings or cousins?

they LOVE to pester the older ones. I envision the 6 yr old was sent in to jump on/harass the teen for not getting out of bed.

[merrily]

8. Good grief.

[rjsquirrel]

3. Guns guns guns

Same old story.

Keep a house full of guns and the most likely person to get shot is someone living in the household.

Not that sympathetic to any parent who lets teenagers have access to a gun.

[TeamPooka]

14. They didn't know he had the gun. Read the story before commenting on it. You won't look so

uninformed.

[rjsquirrel]

15. A parent who doesn't know

Their kid has a gun ain't much better.

What's the point of the details. He didn't use a sword. The problem is the gun. and the parents "not knowing about it" is a bullshit excuse.

It was in a goddamn closet in their home. Would your kid be able to hide a gun in your home?

Yeah right they didn't know about it.

[TeamPooka]

16. I'm not making an excuse for anyone. I simply corrected your incorrect statement of the facts.

[rjsquirrel]

20. You incorrectly corrected me

Since the article says the gun was in the home and the parents "claim" not to know about it. I was speaking in general anyway:parents need to be held accountable for their kids getting their hands on guns, certainly guns kept in their own house.

My theory is that "we did t know" is an excuse. You're still shitty parents even if that is true. No way my teenagers could hide a gun in a closet in my house. if you know your kids and what they are up to it just seems very unlikely.

Either way I wasn't commenting on the specifics here, just the general epidemic of deaths caused by guns in homes and parents who don't pay attention or worse yet provide the guns. The FACT is that having a gun in your home, whether you "know about it" or not, statistically makes it more likely someone in your home will get shot, statistically provides no significant protection of equivalent value, and marks you as an ignorant gun nut who fetishizes death but can't calculate risk. Meaning you shouldn't be allowed to have kids in a sane world.

You also added that I was "uninformed." That's what RKBA gun nutters like to say. Notice that none of them ever challenge the point, because it's true, that having a gun in your house, or on your person, makes you or someone in your family most likely target.

Every shooting involving a kid-- and they happen every day in America, although it is usually kids shooting other kids "accidentally" (again I favor jail time for their parents in such cases, and loss of their other kids) or parents shooting kids "accidentally" (ditto) or most often dads shooting moms in front of kids, usually not accidentally.

Great country. Good thing we can keep and bear arms to "protect" our "freedom."

So no, I'm not uninformed and you missed my point in your rush to snarkily change the subject just like any gun nutter would. That's how they argue, not-picking apart some tangential point as if it discredits the main one. ("It's a CLIP not a MAGAZINE! How can you not know about Mary Jones who shot her rapist? Etc blah blah, more gun bullshit.)

Guns kill "good guys" an order of magnitude more often tha "bad guys." Guns kept in homes with kids are almost always a stupid idea, certainly if kids have any access (with the exception being families that really do hunt, who tend to be big on gun safety-- like my upbringing actually). That gun in your dresser or closet may give you a sense of security but it's false and dangerous bullshit. It is most likely to be used, if ever, against you.

Gun crazy USA. The nutters say all the dead kids are just the price of their freedom. I say screw them.

[TeamPooka]

25. You didn't read the story at first and were factually incorrect. Keep rationalizing though It's cute

[Marengo]

26. How may kids in your household, gun owner?

[GGJohn]

24. I grew up around firearms, nobody shot in our home,

my kids grew up around firearms, again, nobody shot in our home, I still maintain firearms in our home, nobody shot.

The same analogy applies with vehicles, you are more likely to have an accident if you own a vehicle.

[cannabis_flower]

4. Glad he wasn't a good shot.

[Aristus]

5. It's a good thing that kid had a gun to defend himself against threats to send him to school...

[lindysalsagal]

9. If he didn't like school, imagine how much he won't like prison,

As long as we tolerate our gun society, we'll be jailing shooters.

[Vinca]

10. Grandma needs to remember to strap on her weapon first thing in the morning.

At least the little jerk was a bad shot. And why wouldn't he be? You don't need to know how to use a gun safely to purchase one.

[IamTheNoodle]

11. Plot twist; He attends Gunsite Academy.

[maxsolomon]

12. Since he was only 16, he wasn't allowed to buy that gun

so he was already not a law-abiding gun owner. he was a CRIMINAL.

incident dismissed. move along, controllers.

[ileus]

13. Where was his father?

[Blue_Tires]

22. What would a father have done in that situation

Other than get shot at?

[Katashi_itto]

17. Why wasn't the six year old armed?

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

18. I'm not a fan of keeping guns around the house with kids.

I think it is perhaps the worst with teenagers. My oldest is 13. I'm so glad we don't own guns right now. Holy cow, teenagers are so moody and if they already have issues with impulsivity, then it's even worse. Plus, they are getting to an age where they are more inclined to challenge authority. My kid is great and all, but I swear at his age he can fly off the handle about mundane stuff that really shouldn't matter. That's all it takes and if you have a gun lying around....

[liberalfromaustin21]

19. Just another example of gun violence in America

When will this madness end?

[Shankapotomus]

21. I wonder why the kid didn't want to go to school

He could have some kind of undiagnosed social or psychological issue, in which case, trying to force someone under such stress could produce resistance and, as in this case, violence.

I'm not defending what he did but if a child doesn't at least have the same control over their own freedom of movement as an adult would have, he shouldn't be charged as one.

[Crunchy Frog]

23. How did he get his hands on the gun?

They need to go after whoever he got it from.