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Raster

(20,998 posts)
2. I can understand the reasoning: put forth a SCOTUS candidate that the rethuglican...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:47 PM
Feb 2016

...Congress will have to pretzel-bend to disapprove of, and show the obstructionist republican Congress for just what they are: petty, conniving, obstructionist assholes.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
3. Really? What if they delay up until they realize they will lose the election.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:51 PM
Feb 2016

And then go ahead and appoint the candidate as the next SCOTUS. It would guarantee, win or lose the election, that the next SCOTUS would be a Republican.

Do you still support this reasoning?

Raster

(20,998 posts)
4. Hold on there one minute: I did NOT say I supported that reasoning....
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:55 PM
Feb 2016

...I said I could understand it. Nothing more.

If it were up to me, I would say that President Obama should pick the most qualified candidate, with appropriate life experience that will work to bring a more centrist - if not outright LIBERAL - stance back to the SCOTUS. And whether we like to admit it or not, there are progressive, thinking, qualified candidates out there with and (R) behind their names, or at least I hope there are.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
6. But is this really Obama's choice or a trial balloon of Blue dogs and GOP
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:05 PM
Feb 2016

since the GOP as a whole does not want the seat open come November as it will dominate the debates.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
7. Not. Going. To. Happen.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:15 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton may well finagle and maneuver a primary win... after all, she has the whole DLC/DNC//DWS machine going full throttle for her. But she is un-electable in the general election. The rethuglican hate machine has been primed for their "Shrillary" moment for years. They have material in the can they've crowd tested over-and-over again. There is absolutely no other candidate - not even "the Black man" - they hate more than Hillary Clinton. The GOP faithful - hell, even just somewhat faithful - will crawl across broken glass and through fire to VOTE AGAINST CLINTON. The GOP and rethuglican dirty tricks squad - if Hillary is the candidate - will paint this as a simple good-vs-evil battle for the generations.

And just to be clear: If Hillary is the candidate - and I sincerely hope she is not - I will crawl across broken glass and through fire TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE.

msongs

(67,417 posts)
8. one can hardly tell the difference between repubs and the sanders crowd talking about "shillary" nt
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:21 PM
Feb 2016

Raster

(20,998 posts)
10. I'm sure you can't. Nuance seems to be lost - hell intelligent conversation - seems...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:25 PM
Feb 2016

... to be lost on certain DU members.

You don't get it. Oh wait, you don't want to get it. Because Bill and Hill must have their "date with destiny" and it's Hillary's turn, darn it!

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
9. I get it, too. That's this President's M.O., and tbh, that's what Dems let Rs do to them
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:25 PM
Feb 2016

Rs will select the next Justice, be it Obama's appointment, Hillary's, Bernie's, or Trumps.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
11. A Liberal and Popular Repub to replace Scalia?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:51 PM
Feb 2016

Puts the Pubs in an awkward spot. It would be hard for them to oppose one of their own. Yet he appears to fail all of their so called litmus tests. Pubs might have gotten backing if a truly liberal candidate were to be nominated. But this doesn't look like Obama is stacking the Court toward the left as much as it would appear to actually accomplish. Obama gets to say, Hey I gave them another Repub to replace Scalia. Even though he is more of a Lincoln Chaffee than a Ted Cruz.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
13. He's pretty moderate
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

And even helped raise taxes for schools last term. Apparently his judicial record is pretty moderate, too.

Of course, he might just be playing the moderate for election ambition and actually be batshit Tea Party crazy. Either way I wouldn't vote for him, but he's probably the safest choice Obama could make.

The Republucans will look like lunatics if they turn down a popular Republican governor, and they're already looking pretty nuts.

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