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Question: Who are the 'real Republicans' and who are they embracing in this election? (Original Post) SummerSnow Feb 2016 OP
Kind of hard to know, elleng Feb 2016 #1
From what I've read, traditional conservatism Hortensis Feb 2016 #2
Hillary Clinton malthaussen Feb 2016 #3
Only one I know of is Susan Collins Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2016 #4
Trump or Cruz bigwillq Feb 2016 #5

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. From what I've read, traditional conservatism
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:10 PM
Feb 2016

was destroyed by the ultra-funded and ultra-organized ultraconservative movement. Traditionals naturally resist change, and the ultras intended, and intend, enormous change. Traditional Republican politicans were run out of office, and traditional voters have no one to vote for even if they hadn't been served the Kool-Aid themselves for 30 years.

Note that traditional conservative is a personality type, not just a political orientation, so they're still around. No one knows if this weird election could mark some of them refinding their own voices. At least, I've read of no signs yet, but then analysts didn't know they were supposed to ask if people would vote for a socialist running as a Democrat.

Oh, what's real? Beats me. I assumed you meant traditionals, but

Traditionals are mostly "temporally oriented," the kind who just want things to stay the same. They idealize the calm security of Ozzie and Harriet, but don't really worry about diversity so much -- except as it means change. The part of the GOP that worked with the Democrats to create the New Deal programs.

Social conservatives mostly want everyone to be like them and can get really hostile and aggressive toward everyone who is not, which is in America...most people. These people, whatever their skin color or background, tend to resist diversity. Most religious conservatives are social conservatives. If some clerk is giving you his special treatment because you're a different color, he is going to one of these. They're also almost all authoritarian to some degree -- they tend to want government that will force their ways on everyone, and of course authoritarianism comes naturally to devout religionists. Tea Party, John Bircher Society, GOP "base."

Economic conseratives are money and property oriented.

Mild, moderate, strong, extreme, and flat-dangerous versions are available, as well as an infinite variety of combinations. They all tend to believe in a natural hierarchy based on who "deserves" to be privileged or not, rather than in the equality of men, putting them at odds with our founding principles.

Then there are the libertarians, often mistaken for liberal because of their focus on their own personal liberty. They're not and usually orient with conservatives.

malthaussen

(17,215 posts)
3. Hillary Clinton
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:49 PM
Feb 2016

No joke. IMO, the "real Republicans" have been driven from the GOP and have fled to the Democratic Party. Mrs Clinton, of all the available candidates, most approaches those qualities they hold dear in a President.

-- Mal

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
4. Only one I know of is Susan Collins
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 08:12 PM
Feb 2016

and she had endorsed Jeb Bush. Jeb seemed like the most reasonable of the bunch running, but he didn't do well for that and, yeah, he dropped out.

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