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Myrina

(12,296 posts)
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:30 PM Feb 2016

13 cases of Mumps confirmed at 3 Indiana universities

9 at Butler in Indy, 1 at IU-Indy campus and 3 at IU - Bloomington.
But nah, let's not vaccinate our kids before they go into the school systems.


http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/nine-cases-of-mumps-reported-at-butler-university


INDIANAPOLIS -- Six days after three Butler University students tested positive for mumps, officials have found six more cases of the disease on students. The incidents at IU and Butler are now considered outbreaks by state health officials.

"At this time, there is no link between the cases at the two universities, so they are considered separate outbreaks,” said State Health Commissioner Jerome Adams. “Mumps is a highly contagious respiratory disease, so I encourage all Hoosiers to make sure your measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccinations are up to date. The best protection against mumps is to get vaccinated.”

This brings the total of cases of mumps at Butler to nine.


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Botany

(70,522 posts)
1. R you kidding me?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:43 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/mumps/fs-parents.html

why don't these people have their mmr shots?

Is there a link between the MMR shot and autism?
No. Scientists in the United States and other countries have carefully studied the MMR shot. None has found a link between autism and the MMR shot.

What is mumps?
Mumps is a contagious disease caused by a virus. It spreads easily through coughing and sneezing. There is no treatment for mumps, and it can cause long-term health problems.

What are the symptoms of mumps?
Mumps usually causes the following symptoms for about 7 to 10 days:
Fever
Headache
Muscle aches
Tiredness
Loss of appetite (not wanting to eat)
Swollen glands under the ears or jaw
Some people who get mumps do not have symptoms. Others may feel sick but will not have swollen glands.
Is it serious?

In most children, mumps is pretty mild. But it can cause serious, lasting problems, including:
Meningitis (infection of the covering of the brain and spinal cord)
Deafness (temporary or permanent)
Encephalitis (swelling of the brain)
Orchitis (swelling of the testicles) in males who have reached puberty
Oophoritis (swelling of the ovaries) and/or mastitis (swelling of the breasts) in females who have reached puberty
In rare cases, mumps is deadly.

FSogol

(45,491 posts)
5. My sons had to submit their vaccination records to their University before being admitted.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:18 PM
Feb 2016

Why isn't that standard practice everywhere?

Sam_Fields

(305 posts)
6. The mumps vacinne weakens at around age 18
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:21 PM
Feb 2016

You need a nother shot and schools are now getting on board. This has nothing to do with anti-vaccine people.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
12. Mumps vax is not even 90% effective. They're vaccinated; it doesn't mean no one will get it.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:29 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.cdc.gov/mumps/vaccination.html

Mumps can be prevented with MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) vaccine. MMR vaccine prevents most, but not all, cases of mumps and complications caused by the disease. Two doses of the vaccine are 88% (range: 66-95%) effective at preventing mumps; one dose is 78% (range: 49%?92%) effective.


Mumps is extremely contagious, so on average, out of 100 college students who get a strong exposure, at least 8 will get mumps, and it could be as high as 12 or 15, given individual variance.

The vaccination probably produces milder cases even for those who get ill, but it is not able to fully eliminate mumps transmission.

Because of this, most colleges ask for a blood test showing that the student has immune reaction (effective antibodies circulating) or that the student get another mumps vaccine.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. Anti vaxxers hit again
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:01 PM
Feb 2016

PSA even if you had 'em as a child, have your doctor test your titter count. You might need a booster. In my case, my count was non existent. And I had it.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
3. Damnit. Butler and IU-Indy are only about 20 minutes from where I live.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016

And Bloomington is a regular weekend getaway for me.

Thanks a fucking bunch, anti-vaxxers.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
4. My mother-in-law is from there
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:08 PM
Feb 2016

we have family all over Bloomington and surrounding areas. Don't think any cousins are currently enrolled but still pretty close.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
14. This has to do with vaccine failure, not failure to vaccinate.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:48 PM
Feb 2016

Here's a paper:
http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/47/11/1458.full

There are two problems. The first is that no vaccine, even the two-dose vaccine, and often three-dose for college education students in the US, provides 100% coverage. The second problem is that when you have very good vaccine coverage, variant strains tend to proliferate in the population vaccinated:

Perhaps aggravating the effect of decreasing levels of antibody over time on mumps susceptibility is antigenic variation among mumps viruses. This was most clearly demonstrated in antibody cross-neutralization studies, in which antibody titers to heterologous mumps viruses were often considerably lower than corresponding titers to the homologous virus [75, 76, 78, 79, 81, 82, 97]. of note, viruses isolated from recent mumps outbreaks differed phylogenically and, possibly, antigenically from the vaccine viruses used. For example, the Jeryl Lynn, RIT-4384, and Rubini vaccine strains are genotype A viruses, whereas wild-type viruses associated with outbreaks occurring in countries using these vaccines belong to genotype groups B, C, D, G, H, and I [31, 32, 52, 56, 98–101]. Likewise, the Urabe, Hoshino, and Torii vaccine strains are genotype B viruses, and viruses isolated during outbreaks in countries using these vaccines have been identified mostly as genotypes C, D, G, J, K, and L (although genotype B viruses have also been isolated) [80, 99, 101, 102]. In individuals responding to vaccination with only nominal levels of neutralizing antibody or in individuals for whom immune responses have waned with time after vaccination, this mismatch between the vaccine genotype and that of circulating mumps virus strains may facilitate immune escape.


So that's why US colleges ask for evidence of serum immunity or another vaccination, but even with that, mumps can only be suppressed and not eradicated.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
15. Anything for a good scapegoating.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:22 PM
Feb 2016

I also wouldn't be surprised if there are overall issues with the public health infrastructure of Indiana, as it's a pretty backward state.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. We're having some cases in NC,
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:30 PM
Feb 2016

and they saying the mumps vaccine is not necessarily effective in preventing it.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
16. Most of those were fully vaccinated.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:41 PM
Feb 2016

"There are going to be some people affected in these outbreaks of mumps who avoided vaccination, but that's not the primary issue here. The primary issue is that the protective effect of the immunization wanes."
- Dr. William Schaffner, infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University.

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/15/11004268/mumps-vaccines-indiana-kansas-butler

And it is possible that those who are infected are being infected by recently immunized peers through horizontal transmission.

"The L-3 mumps vaccine virus can be shed and transmitted horizontally, even to subjects previously vaccinated with the same virus."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16266774

Blaming the anti-vaxxers is easy, but may not always be accurate. In this case it may be just as easy to blame the vaxxers and the vax believers.

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