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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIMHO Scalia was the worst Supreme Court justice of all time. .
some of you here, might think Roger Taney was the worst and there's merit to that position. But by not recusing himself in Bush vs. Gore (his son was working for Bush or something like that) he did such irreversible harm to this planet, to this country, to everyone. And the SOB was intent on hurting animals when he died. Plus, he always (except once in a flag-burning case) drifted to the wrong and harmful position like a moth to a flame. If you didn't know anything about a case at all, all you would need to know is Scalia's position on it, you could pretty much assure yourself that the opposite position to the one Scalia was holding would be the one to take. Some here might think Clarence Thomas or Alito are worse, but they're just following in Scalia's footsteps.
We need an anti-Scalia on the Court now and I have my doubts that Sri Srinivasan (defended Enron exec) or Jeh Johnson (said that MLK would have supported the war in Iraq) are it.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Roger Taney a close second.
Stargleamer
(1,990 posts)such a virulent anti-Semite! But the country did recover from him.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Scalia, at least, was well-liked by his colleagues on a personal level from what I understand.
His decisions, obviously, are another story. You are right in your assessment of the severity of their impact on our country.
malthaussen
(17,216 posts)It remains to be seen. One needs historical context to properly rank the candidates.
-- Mal
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)The Dred Scott decision IMHO is the worst SCOTUS decision of all time, and on top of ruling that black people were not human beings, it set the stage for the Civil War.
Taney wrote that decision, which makes him the absolute worst justice of all time, IMHO. Of course, opinions differ.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)I agree that this choice will be monumental. I disagree we need an anti-Scalia. Scalia, for all his faults, was brilliant, and that is what made him so dangerous.
We need someone at the same IQ scale as Scalia, but with a totally different perspective about the constitution and the role of government.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)you will find far more powerful examples of how bad a justice he really was, and plenty of them. They have nothing to do with whether he liked to hunt and everything to do with deliberately attempting to turn an entire nation in a direction it would never have chosen to go on its own.
I pretty much agree with, "If you didn't know anything about a case at all, all you would need to know is Scalia's position on it, you could pretty much assure yourself that the opposite position to the one Scalia was holding would be the one to take."
But I disagree with the rest, Stargleamer. IMO, both underestimating enemies and casting essentially good, honorable allies off foolishly are fatal flaws in a citizen warrior.
I have a strong belief myself: That your own behavior would not stand the kind of scrutiny you inflict on others. I know mine wouldn't. I'm not perfect and never have been. I even once worked for Peterson Publishing as an editorial assistant. The guilt will never be assuaged. Do you have any idea how many animal deaths the Hunting and Skin Diver people encouraged? How many girls copied Teen's bimboism? I sure don't. Oh, the shame!
vinny9698
(1,016 posts)The GOP were 100% on Scalia's side. But none have the power Scalia had. That's why it is important that Obama appoint a young person. So that they also have the longevity that Scalia had.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)desirable nominee. Apparently even late 50s is considered a wasted opportunity these days.
Stargleamer
(1,990 posts)I think, Hortensis, that his hunting of animals reflected just a Power-over orientation that that he adopted throughout his life, whether it was Power over animals, Power over women, the Power of the wealthy over the poor, the Power of whites over People of Color, power of Straights over LGBT, etc. that ultimately hurt many. And I admit quite readily that i am seriously flawed, but my flaws don't have a negative impact on millions of people.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)indicator of flawed character and should draw careful evaluation for a position like SC justice. Many otherwise fine people do hunt, though. We are all persons of parts, and I would only turn down a hunter of great intellect and probity if I were a quail myself.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)I'd say that the absolute worst SCOTUS justice was Roger Taney, who authored the Dred Scott decision. Not only did he rule that black people were effectively animals that were not entitled to civil rights, but his decision pretty much set the stage for the Civil War.
It's hard to top that one.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)maybe we'd have the south as some backwater banana republic with no resources (except Texas), whose citizens would be much like the wetbacks scurrying across the Rio Grande, trying to suck off the teat of the productive states in the north, bleeding us dry.
Wait a minute! that's pretty much the state of things today.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)The Bush theft was the watershed moment in the decline (irreversible?) of the US. How many horrible things have happened because of that single decision?
Raise your hand if you think we'll ever recover.
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)don't blame the decent people who were unlucky enough to be born here. I HATE "southern culture" and I firmly believe that Lincoln was far too merciful after the Civil War and allowed a culture of racism and treason to continue to find fertile ground.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)And he opposed the gutting of the Indian Child Welfare Act.
Here is my post on the subject from the other day.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027609858
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I'm not enough of a SCOTUS historian to comment on the others, but Fat Tony was the worst of my lifetime.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Did whatever Fat Tony told him. Now Alito probably will do that.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,210 posts)That would be Taney, followed perhaps by Melville Fuller who laid down the 'Separate but Equal' judgement.
And I won't even begin on some of Britain's 'hanging judges' of the past.
ETA: I hadn't heard of McReynolds, but having now looked him up - all I can say is eeeuuuuurrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhh!!!
Bucky
(54,065 posts)I don't think you can be more evil than that, even as bad as Scalia was.