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HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:29 AM Feb 2016

88 Dems, including DWS, voted with 244 Republicans to allow racial discrimination in auto sales.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/democrats-car-dealers-racism_us_564e440ae4b0258edb30ba10

The gist of the story...auto dealers had been tacking on extra interest to car financing to boost profits. Govt found minorities were getting higher interest rates, even with same credit ratings. Govt tried to shut the practice down, Congress passed a bill permitting it to continue. Minorities, the Third Way Democrats are not your friends. And this is a good example of racial justice being intertwined with economic justice.
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88 Dems, including DWS, voted with 244 Republicans to allow racial discrimination in auto sales. (Original Post) HooptieWagon Feb 2016 OP
This is disgusting. How can this racist bill even exist? lob1 Feb 2016 #1
It exists because they represent monied interests, not us. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #2
I know, I'm just shocked at how blatant they've gotten. lob1 Feb 2016 #6
",,,they've gotten." < "...we've gotten." jtuck004 Feb 2016 #9
DWS also has voted repeatedly to send sick people to prison for using medical marijuana. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #3
She gets a lot of money from the liquor industry. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #5
hmmm including Grayson and Duckworth hfojvt Feb 2016 #4
My guy voted for it too. But my old guy, didn't. Both Dems. cui bono Feb 2016 #7
Right, if they both voted yes I'm thinking there's some nuance to look into but on its face uponit7771 Feb 2016 #15
It is merely institutional racism malaise Feb 2016 #8
very disappointing that Grayson and DWS voted for that nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #10
Interesting and appalling - Grayson and Patrick Murphy and Debbie DINO and Gwen Graham djean111 Feb 2016 #11
Shameful. n/t MerryBlooms Feb 2016 #12
I have to say I am not only surprised by some of the names on this list... monicaangela Feb 2016 #13
I'm glad to say my Congressman Lloyd Doggett was not on that list hobbit709 Feb 2016 #14
Mine voted for it - Crowley nt LiberalElite Feb 2016 #16
H.R.1737 - Reforming CFPB Indirect Auto Financing Guidance Act Deuce Feb 2016 #17
And one step further into the underbrush ... What the brief bill actually affects: Igel Feb 2016 #19
John K. Delaney (DINO - MD). Why am I not surprised? LiberalEsto Feb 2016 #18

lob1

(3,820 posts)
1. This is disgusting. How can this racist bill even exist?
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:45 AM
Feb 2016

And why is the head of the Democratic party jointing republicans to pass this racist bill? We have to get her out of office. She represents nothing I believe in.

lob1

(3,820 posts)
6. I know, I'm just shocked at how blatant they've gotten.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:57 AM
Feb 2016

This can't be helping the Clinton campaign.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
9. ",,,they've gotten." < "...we've gotten."
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 05:44 AM
Feb 2016

"So that happened. This week, the House of Representatives voted to help banks and car dealerships discriminate against customers of color. And it wasn't just Republicans -- 88 Democrats, including Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) -- voted in favor of the legislation."

From the article.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
3. DWS also has voted repeatedly to send sick people to prison for using medical marijuana.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:50 AM
Feb 2016

Very little she does could surprise me.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
7. My guy voted for it too. But my old guy, didn't. Both Dems.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 05:00 AM
Feb 2016

I'm going to have to listen to that podcast they have up at the link tomorrow.



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uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
15. Right, if they both voted yes I'm thinking there's some nuance to look into but on its face
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 08:49 AM
Feb 2016

... it looks like a bad bill

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
11. Interesting and appalling - Grayson and Patrick Murphy and Debbie DINO and Gwen Graham
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:28 AM
Feb 2016

all voted for it. I expected that from Patrick Murphy and Gwen Graham and Debbie DINO - all Florida DINOs and members of the Third Way-advised new Democrat Coalition. Did not expect it from Grayson - but that does not make Patrick Murphy smell any better in the upcoming primary for Rubio's seat.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
13. I have to say I am not only surprised by some of the names on this list...
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:53 AM
Feb 2016

I'm actually shocked by a few of them. However, here is the list:

The 88 House Democrats who voted to enable racial discrimination in the automobile market:
Pete Aguilar (Calif.) Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fla.) Brad Ashford (Neb.) Joyce Beatty (Ohio)
Amerish Babulal "Ami" Bera (Calif.) Don Beyer (Va.) Sanford Dixon Bishop Jr. (Ga.) Brendan Boyle (Pa.)
Robert Brady (Pa.) Julia Brownley (Calif.) Cheryl "Cheri" Bustos (Ill.) Matt Cartwright (Pa.) James "Jim" Clyburn (S.C.) Gerald "Gerry" Connolly (Va.) Jim Cooper (Tenn.) James "Jim" Costa (Calif.) Joseph "Joe" Courtney (Conn.) Joseph Crowley (N.Y.) Henry Cuellar (Texas) John K. Delaney (Md.) Suzan DelBene (Wash.) Debbie Dingell (Mich.) Mike Doyle (Pa.) Tammy Duckworth (Ill.) Elizabeth Esty (Conn.) Bill Foster (Ill.) Tulsi Gabbard (Hawaii) Ruben Gallego (Ariz.) Gwen Graham (Fla.) Alan Grayson (Fla.) Eugene "Gene" Green (Texas) Janice Hahn (Calif.) Alcee L. Hastings (Fla.) Dennis "Denny" Heck (Wash.) Brian Higgins (N.Y.) Rubén Hinojosa (Texas) Jared Huffman (Calif.) Steve Israel (N.Y.) Marcy Kaptur (Ohio) William "Bill" Keating (Mass.) Dan Kildee (Mich.) Derek Kilmer (Wash.) Ron Kind (Wis.) Ann Kirkpatrick (Ariz.) Ann Kuster (N.H.) Rick Larsen (Wash.) Brenda Lawrence (Mich.) Ted Lieu (Calif.) Dan Lipinski (Ill.) Dave Loebsack (Iowa) Michelle Lujan Grisham (N.M.) Ben Ray Lujan (N.M.) Jim McDermott (Wash.) Grace Meng (N.Y.) Patrick Murphy (Fla.) Rick Nolan (Minn.) Donald Norcross (N.J.) Beto O'Rourke (Texas) Bill Pascrell (N.J.) Ed Perlmutter (Colo.) Scott Peters (Calif.) Collin Peterson (Minn.) Mike Quigley (Ill.) Kathleen Rice (N.Y.) Raul Ruiz (Calif.) Tim Ryan (Ohio) Loretta Sanchez (Calif.) Adam Schiff (Calif.) Kurt Schrader (Ore.) David Scott (Ga.) Terri Sewell (Ala.) Brad Sherman (Calif.) Kyrsten Sinema (Ariz.) Albio Sires (N.J.) Louise Slaughter (N.Y.) Adam Smith (Wash.) Jackie Speier (Calif.) Eric Swalwell (Calif.) Mike Thompson (Calif.) Dina Titus (Nev.) Paul Tonko (N.Y.) Norma Torres (Calif.) Nikki Tsongas (Mass.) Juan Vargas (Calif.) Marc Veasey (Texas) Filemon Vela (Texas) Tim Walz (Minn.) Peter Welch (Vt.).

Somehow I wonder if this wasn't included in some other bill. Does anyone know what number this Bill is? Is it on line yet so that we can read it as it moves through congress?


Igel

(35,350 posts)
19. And one step further into the underbrush ... What the brief bill actually affects:
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 11:09 AM
Feb 2016
http://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/201303_cfpb_march_-Auto-Finance-Bulletin.pdf

Annulling this is what the Huffington piece has to be about.

Much of this is aspirational. More than a bit is vague. Implementing aspirational, vague requirements can be a nightmare, esp. when you have to implement them without knowing whether or not you're actually stopping anything and when you're all but told you'll be legally liable unless you prevent somebody else who may or may not be doing something illegal from doing that possibly illegal thing. Intent matters, to be sure, but sometimes it's not enough.

It's written by somebody with a purely metaphorical axe to grind who's never actually learned how to chop wood but, having read that quarter-cut wood is best and a claim about the angle the blade should set at requires that all wood be cross-cut with axes set at that certain angle, and that wood-sellers should insist on wood choppers' compliance with his decree.
 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
18. John K. Delaney (DINO - MD). Why am I not surprised?
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 11:04 AM
Feb 2016

Ever since Maryland's last, infamous redistricting and subsequent elections, we've been stuck with Delaney. He is a Republican through and through.
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