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http://www.businessinsider.com/new-report-shows-how-many-warnings-about-bin-laden-were-ignored-by-the-bush-white-house-2012-9We already knew about the presidential brief from Aug. 6, 2001 that was titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S. The White House has shown that this declassified document was primarily a history of Al Qaeda, not a warning of imminent attack.
But there were other briefings, some seen by Eichenwald, that did warn of an imminent attack....
These and other similar warnings were ignored by the White House. The Neocons in charge insisted that the threat was instead a coordinated diversion meant to distract attention from Saddam Hussein, according to Eichenwald. This opinion frustrated the intelligence community, who saw the theory as totally illogical.
Wounded Bear
(58,703 posts)pretty sure that daily briefings were the norm.
TheProgressive
(1,656 posts)And ask questions and find out what's up...
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)do some very bad things
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)loudsue
(14,087 posts)The Project for the New American Century paper laid it all out ahead of time. Signed, of course, by all the major players.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)I remember having nowhere except my very tired family to vent to until this came along. I was here within hours on the first day...(different handle/account)
loudsue
(14,087 posts)I started out on Democrats.com, and mediawhoresonline, where all the journalists who leaned left were fired and replaced with rightwingers.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Which is why I don't understand how so many Americans were in support of the war. And so many politicians. This is what got me so enraged that I got involved in politics, finally.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)If you just watch the corporate rightwing media, you would think the whole damned world had gone off their rockers.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)hotter for the Neocons including Hillary.
Americans are very fair, and when we get messed with and lied to, we eventually find someone to straighten things out.
The Neocons made a huge mistake. Many lives were lost.
And now we have Bernie. One thing about him, he is fair-minded. And Americans like that more than anything.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)uponit7771
(90,359 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)In fact, the article seems designed to flog the book, which came out in ....Sept. 11, 2012
http://www.amazon.com/500-Days-Secrets-Lies-Terror/dp/1451669380
leveymg
(36,418 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I just see one book mentioned in teh 2012 article.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Not sure why being posted now.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I see some posts like that, from time to time, and try to remember to check the dates.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Always an important reminder of who and what we're dealing with, cretins who consider humanity their chattel.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)George W. Bush kept us safe after 9/11. What about during 9/11? I was there, Trump told the press. I lost a lot of friends that were killed in that building. The worst attack ever in this country it was during his Presidency.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/donald-trump-hilariously-slams-the-george-w-bush-kept-us-safe-after-911-line/
Jebthro is spitting bullets: "Crossed over the line."
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Sort of what most of us "Early DU'ers" were dealing with.
Who is "Running" Trump...is what I wonder about.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)Otherwise, it's all just clutter. Right? Isn't that the way it has to work?
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)It called for a covert CIA and military campaign to end the Al Qaeda threatgetting into the Afghan sanctuary, launching a paramilitary operation, creating a bridge with Uzbekistan.
And the word back, says Tenet, was were not quite ready to consider this. We dont want the clock to start ticking. (Translation: they did not want a paper trail to show that theyd been warned.)
Black, a charismatic ex-operative who had helped the French arrest the terrorist known as Carlos the Jackal, says the Bush team just didnt get the new threat: I think they were mentally stuck back eight years [before]. They were used to terrorists being Euro-leftiesthey drink champagne by night, blow things up during the day, how bad can this be? And it was a very difficult sell to communicate the urgency to this.
That morning of July 10, the head of the agencys Al Qaeda unit, Richard Blee, burst into Blacks office. And he says, Chief, this is it. Roof's fallen in, recounts Black. The information that we had compiled was absolutely compelling. It was multiple-sourced. And it was sort of the last straw.
Black and his deputy rushed to the directors office to brief Tenet. All agreed an urgent meeting at the White House was needed. Tenet picked up the white phone to Bushs National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice. I said, Condi, I have to come see you, Tenet remembers. It was one of the rare times in my seven years as director where I said, I have to come see you. We're comin' right now. We have to get there.
Tenet vividly recalls the White House meeting with Rice and her team. (George W. Bush was on a trip to Boston.) Rich [Blee] started by saying, There will be significant terrorist attacks against the United States in the coming weeks or months. The attacks will be spectacular. They may be multiple. Al Qaeda's intention is the destruction of the United States." [Condi said:] What do you think we need to do? Black responded by slamming his fist on the table, and saying, We need to go on a wartime footing now!
What happened? I ask Cofer Black. Yeah. What did happen? he replies. To me it remains incomprehensible still. I mean, how is it that you could warn senior people so many times and nothing actually happened? Its kind of like The Twilight Zone.
Remarkably, in her memoir, Condi Rice writes of the July 10 warnings: My recollection of the meeting is not very crisp because we were discussing the threat every day. Having raised threat levels for U.S. personnel overseas, she adds: I thought we were doing what needed to be done. (When I asked whether she had any further response to the comments that Tenet, Black and others made to me, her chief of staff said she stands by the account in her memoir.) Inexplicably, although Tenet brought up this meeting in his closed-door testimony before the 9/11 Commission, it was never mentioned in the committees final report.
And there was one more chilling warning to come. At the end of July, Tenet and his deputies gathered in the directors conference room at CIA headquarters. We were just thinking about all of this and trying to figure out how this attack might occur, he recalls. And I'll never forget this until the day I die. Rich Blee looked at everybody and said, They're coming here. And the silence that followed was deafening. You could feel the oxygen come out of the room. They're coming here.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/cia-directors-documentary-911-bush-213353#ixzz40GU5Uwtm
as for the bolded sentence, gee, I wonder why it wasn't in the report????
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Posted by leveymg in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Mon May 07th 2007, 11:31 AM
George Tenet's new book, At the Center of the Storm, reveals something extremely important about events in the final weeks before 9/11. For the first time, the former CIA Director admits he flew to Crawford in late August, just weeks before the attack by al-Qaeda cells known to be in the U.S., and briefed President George W. Bush personally about the threat.
This briefing followed a CIA PDB read to the President on August 6 in a meeting with Harriet Miers, then the President's lawyer, and an emergency meeting between Tenet and Condi Rice on July 10 on the same subject.
It also reveals that in order to cover up the last meeting, Tenet committed perjury before the 9/11 Commission when he denied meeting with Bush in the month before the attack. According to the White House website, Bush met in Crawford with Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, National Security Advisor Condi Rice, and the present and former Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Generals Meyers and Pace, on August 24, 2001. Actually, this is not the first time Tenet has referenced that meeting. During April 2003 testimony before the Commission, Tenet "misspoke" and let it slip that he had met with the President in the weeks leading up to 9/11.
The corporate media virtually ignored a couple wire service reports about Tenet's revelation, and practically no one followed-up on it, except two bloggers, one of whom was me.
Here's the relevant extract from Tenet's book: http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/050607....
A few weeks after the Aug. 6 PDB was delivered, I followed it to Crawford to make sure the President stayed current on events, Tenet wrote in his memoir, At the Center of the Storm. This was my first visit to the ranch. I remember the President graciously driving me around the spread in his pickup and my trying to make small talk about the flora and the fauna, none of which were native to Queens,
And, here's the article that I published nearly three years ago: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0406/S000...
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KoKo
(84,711 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Even if unintentional, but I don't believe that for a second.
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turbinetree
(24,713 posts)And Ten Years After says it all................................
Honk------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016
MisterP
(23,730 posts)that stupid: both arms easily converged on ignoring anything
in the 80s they thought that the Latin American Church and Tehran were both Moscow's puppets; this was so earnestly believed that CIA reports could brag about sabotaging Nicaragua's economy with CIA tricks on one page and then two pages later say it was collapsing without a single CIA trick there
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)When he was in the classroom.
Maybe he was shocked it really happened and the warnings weren't just a distraction all along. Remember, he was just a puppet of the Project for the New American Century. He bought whatever they told him. And they wanted it to happen so it would force the war on Iraq.
AllyCat
(16,218 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)We need to indict the whole crew that was behind this.
Cheney, Rummy, Wolfie...all of them.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)in making the "intelligence" fit the agenda. Fuck George Tenet.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I couldn't remember all the names. There may be more that need to be indicted these these few mentioned here.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Director of the CIA was given a Medal of Freedom. George was so happy with Tenet's intelligence that allowed the invasion that he gave him a medal all the while complaining about the intelligence.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I wonder if there is a cell big enough to hold everyone I'd put away? Condoleezza Rice would join them too.
Festivito
(13,452 posts)Usually one or two would be in a Friday news dump each month. Forgotten by Monday.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)9/11 happened intentionally. although i don't think like alex jones that we blew up our own buildings
earthshine
(1,642 posts)ladyVet
(1,587 posts)They knew about the planes, allowed it to happen, and got one in on the Pentagon for good measure. Yes, my tin foil hat is rather pretty.
robhalf4369
(31 posts)All he cared about was keeping himself and his cronies in power, regardless of the circumstances. What a vile man.
valerief
(53,235 posts)librechik
(30,676 posts)Really? That's for the history books now? They "proved" Condi Rice's weird assertion? It really was just a boring story of the distant pass (delivered by hand to the President) and not an urgent warning?
Sigh. Just as I thought.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)It was all lies.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)I am not sure about it all but lots to really question. Like Rummy and his announcement the day before to insurance policy timing concerning the owner of the towers. Oh and multiple people, including fireman, saying on audio/video, that explosions were happening unrelated to any planes.
Who knows what the real truth is, but it is not what we were told.
For quite awhile most people were convinced Oswald was a lone nut killer. Now most think there were multiple shooters, and many of us doubt Oswald was even one of them.
Give it time, some intrepid reporters will dig up more nuggets of truth.
yourout
(7,532 posts)I am fully in the LIHOP camp.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)On Aug. 6, 2001, President George W. Bush received a classified review of the threats posed by Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, Al Qaeda. That mornings presidential daily brief the top-secret document prepared by Americas intelligence agencies featured the now-infamous heading: Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S. A few weeks later, on 9/11, Al Qaeda accomplished that goal.
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While those documents are still not public, I have read excerpts from many of them, along with other recently declassified records, and come to an inescapable conclusion: the administrations reaction to what Mr. Bush was told in the weeks before that infamous briefing reflected significantly more negligence than has been disclosed. In other words, the Aug. 6 document, for all of the controversy it provoked, is not nearly as shocking as the briefs that came before it.
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And the C.I.A. repeated the warnings in the briefs that followed. Operatives connected to Bin Laden, one reported on June 29, expected the planned near-term attacks to have dramatic consequences, including major casualties. On July 1, the brief stated that the operation had been delayed, but will occur soon. Some of the briefs again reminded Mr. Bush that the attack timing was flexible, and that, despite any perceived delay, the planned assault was on track.
Yet, the White House failed to take significant action. Officials at the Counterterrorism Center of the C.I.A. grew apoplectic. On July 9, at a meeting of the counterterrorism group, one official suggested that the staff put in for a transfer so that somebody else would be responsible when the attack took place, two people who were there told me in interviews. The suggestion was batted down, they said, because there would be no time to train anyone else.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=2&hp
Snarkoleptic
(6,001 posts)The "Blue Sky Paper" is something the public needs to be made aware of.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Snarkoleptic
(6,001 posts)yardwork
(61,701 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)mountain grammy
(26,646 posts)of the 9-11 Commission report, not that I think that's the final word, but all sections should be declassified.
http://28pages.org/2016/01/09/new-year-7-new-cosponsors-of-28-pages-resolution/
More House members have signed on.
underpants
(182,874 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Close enough.
librechik
(30,676 posts)First he says he's going to trace 9/11 from 9/11/01 for 550 days. Purports to be an exciting "minute by minute" narrative, which is nauseating in itself. "Bush stared thoughtfully out the window as he contemplated the political costs etc Cheney replied gruffly we've got to get them now (sort of thing, not a direct quote, you get the picture)
Except that the story begins much earlier than 9/11, when Bush was given warnings, including as he took office in January when he was told he's spend most of his time on Mideast terror. And we know from whistleblower the surveillance program began much earlier than September.
Oh, and BTW, he received MORE warnings! He makes everybody in the Bush administration look like a hero or " somebody just resolutely doing their jobs." Karen Hughes hurried down the hallway focused on her message blah blah!" What Tripe! Oh My God!
It's an illogical mess written like a Hollywood screenplay and I found it intolerable.
Wait a minute--