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napi21

(45,806 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:03 PM Feb 2016

Someone asked yesterday "What happens to SCOTUS decisions that have already been decided?"

I just cane across this article.

The justices generally vote for a case's outcome at a conference after oral argument, after which the chief justice assigns an opinion — but if Scalia was the deciding fifth vote in a case that has already been heard, that result is negated. "Unless a justice is sitting at the court at the time of argument and at the time the decision is issued, the justice's vote doesn't count," Bagenstos said

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/what-happens-big-supreme-court-cases-after-scalia-s-death-n518476

It sure sounds to me like most of the cases before this court will be 4-4.

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Someone asked yesterday "What happens to SCOTUS decisions that have already been decided?" (Original Post) napi21 Feb 2016 OP
Workers may now be protected and Women in Texas and elsewhere. What people here need to randys1 Feb 2016 #1
And if Thomas were to have a freakishly tragic encounter with a bus ... BlueStreak Feb 2016 #2
Great information. Thank you. Squinch Feb 2016 #3
The title and article don't agree. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #4
Where did you find the first sentence of your post? I rechecked that article 3 times napi21 Feb 2016 #5
The title asks what happens to cases already decided. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #6

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Workers may now be protected and Women in Texas and elsewhere. What people here need to
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:06 PM
Feb 2016

understand is the very idea that we would do anything that could result in a con nominating SC justices in the future, is downright insane

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
2. And if Thomas were to have a freakishly tragic encounter with a bus ...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:08 PM
Feb 2016

We're talking 4-3.

Let the gods be with us.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. The title and article don't agree.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:15 PM
Feb 2016

Obviously a case that has been argued and decided should stand, even if a Justice dies after the vote and the written opinion is reassigned.
Obviously if a Justice dies between hearing the argument and voting, his vote doesn't count. Likewise, a Justice shouldnt vote on a case he hadn't heard the argument on.
IDK what happens in a 4-4 Court. If a 4-4 'decision' is reached, does the lower courts decision stand? Or perhaps the Court postpones hearing cases likely to end up 4-4, as it would be a waste of time?

napi21

(45,806 posts)
5. Where did you find the first sentence of your post? I rechecked that article 3 times
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:32 PM
Feb 2016

and can't find it. It make sense to me that the cases where Scalia was the deciding vote should be decided with the remaining judges only. I think the section that says "Likewise, a Justice shouldn't vote on a case he hadn't heard the argument on" pertains to a potential justice who is to fill the vacancy.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. The title asks what happens to cases already decided.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:42 PM
Feb 2016

Well, if they were decided then the cases have already been argued and voted. There may be opinion papers to write, but they have no bearing on the decision already made.

The article itself discusses the situation of a vacancy occurring BETWEEN the arguments and the decision, which is a different situation. As I opined above, a Justice who dies after argument and before decision shouldn't have his vote count. And an incoming Justice not present for argument shouldn't vote on the decision.

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