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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:12 PM Feb 2016

By refusing a moderate Scalia replacement now-Republicans risk getting stuck with true liberal later

The GOP’s Supreme Court Gamble

By refusing a moderate Scalia replacement now, Republicans risk getting stuck with a true liberal later.

By Mark Joseph Stern



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Whatever the merits of the constitutional argument, the Republicans’ political strategy here is extremely risky. It makes some sense at first blush—better to roll the dice that a President Rubio or Bush will get to appoint Scalia’s successor—but completely falls apart upon further analysis. There are serious compromise candidates on the current shortlist, extraordinarily qualified moderates like Sri Srinivasan who would likely refuse to overturn treasured conservative precedents like Heller (establishing an individual right to bear arms) and Citizens United (allowing unlimited corporate electioneering). If the Senate confirmed a Srinivasan-type now, it might have to swallow a slight liberal SCOTUS tilt—but it could, by and large, avoid dramatically altering the balance of the court.

If the Senate holds out until January 2017, however, it will be taking an astonishing gamble. Should voters send another Democrat to the White House in November, they just may turn the Senate blue again at the same time.
At that point, the president could nominate a true liberal, in the vein of Justice Sonia Sotomayor—and Senate Democrats could revise the nuclear option and push him or her through over staunch GOP opposition. Once a Justice Goodwin Liu takes the bench, no conservative precedent would be safe. Goodbye Heller, goodbye Citizens United, goodbye McCutcheon and Hobby Lobby and maybe even the death penalty itself.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2016/02/senate_republicans_should_compromise_on_antonin_scalia_s_replacement_or.html

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By refusing a moderate Scalia replacement now-Republicans risk getting stuck with true liberal later (Original Post) kpete Feb 2016 OP
Shhhh... Don't let them know. -none Feb 2016 #1
That is true. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #2
Republican thinking about long-term consequences? Turbineguy Feb 2016 #3
Republicans "thinking" ??? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #7
They've always played the long game. JRLeft Feb 2016 #13
True.... daleanime Feb 2016 #4
As to Sri, maybe rethink randys1 Feb 2016 #5
really? hfojvt Feb 2016 #6
I think Scalia's death has changed the equation a bit. Before jwirr Feb 2016 #12
All the Republicans have to do is stall until election day. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #8
It's not that simple starroute Feb 2016 #11
I was assuming they could set up the hearings/witnesses prior to the election... thesquanderer Feb 2016 #14
I'd rather not risk it. Shoulders of Giants Feb 2016 #9
The bigger risk is to the Republicans. DCBob Feb 2016 #15
Excellent point. DCBob Feb 2016 #10
That's what they want us to do - settle. Octafish Feb 2016 #16
I've beleived this since Senator Turtle opened his beak about stalling. Stinky The Clown Feb 2016 #17

randys1

(16,286 posts)
5. As to Sri, maybe rethink
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:23 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/who-sri-srinivasan-supreme-court


Last Friday, Earth Rights International, a human rights and environmental group, sent a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee urging senators to demand answers on Srinivansan's private-sector work defending oil giant Exxon. In 2011, while working for O'Melveny & Myers LLP, Srinivasan argued that corporations couldn't be held liable for human rights abuses they are complicit in abroad—specifically, in this case, alleged acts of murder and torture. ERI supported the plaintiffs in that litigation.



I want a fucking liberal on that court, period

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
6. really?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:25 PM
Feb 2016

Because having a Scalia replacement on the line seems like a big way to motivate THEIR voters.

Whereas our very own Sanders supporters will quite often say "you cannot bully me into supporting a DINO by threatening me with SCOTUS"

What does the Senate map even look like?

I can think of two seats in my own awareness - Kansas and South Dakota. In neither of those races do a) Democrats have a chance of winning and b) especially since even at this late date they still do not have declared candidates.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. I think Scalia's death has changed the equation a bit. Before
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:07 PM
Feb 2016

we were thinking about replacing our liberal judges with other liberal judges knowing that the court would still be 5-4 conservative.

Now we have a chance to replace Scalia and with a Democrat in the WH those already on the bench. Making the court a 5-4 liberal slant.

Now we have a chance to tip the court back to our side.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
8. All the Republicans have to do is stall until election day.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:32 PM
Feb 2016

If a Democrat wins in November and flips the Senate, they vote to confirm Obama's moderate choice,

If a Republican wins in November and keeps their party in control, they wait until January and go with the new president's pick.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
11. It's not that simple
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:02 PM
Feb 2016

Supreme Court nominations have to go through a process of hearings. And here's the Senate schedule for next fall:

Target pre-election adjournment: October 7th
Reconvene November 14
November 21 – 25 (Thanksgiving)
Reconvene November 28
Target sine die adjournment December 16

So they have one week in session between the election and Thanksgiving and then three weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas. That's hardly enough time to do set up hearings, schedule witnesses, and all the rest.

And of course, Obama or the nominee could withdraw the nomination at any time.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
14. I was assuming they could set up the hearings/witnesses prior to the election...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:13 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Sun Feb 14, 2016, 05:02 PM - Edit history (1)

...but defer the up/down vote until after.

Though you also add an excellent point, that the nomination could be withdrawn at any time, if it was no longer in Obama's interest to maintain it.

9. I'd rather not risk it.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:34 PM
Feb 2016

There is no guarantee a Democrat wins this year, especially if the Republicans manage to dump Trump and Cruz. I assume even a moderate will support Obama Care, gay marriage, and abortion rights, so that would be pretty good. It would probably guarantee all three of these will be the law of the land for decades. I'd rather take that than risk a Republican appointee.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
15. The bigger risk is to the Republicans.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:17 PM
Feb 2016

I hope President Obama goes for it and nominates a left leaning moderate candidate. I think the GOPers will cave.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
16. That's what they want us to do - settle.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:19 PM
Feb 2016

Fight for what is right - a liberal justice now, later and whenever.

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