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jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:32 PM Feb 2016

Republican stonewalling of Scalia's replacement is treason

Article 2, Section 2 of the Constitution reads:

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.


Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution reads:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.


18 USC 2381 reads:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


Any Republican who prevents the president of the United States from carrying out his duty to choose a justice to replace Antonin Scalia has committed the crime of Treason, and should be punished by five years in a federal prison, fined $10,000 and permanently lose the right to hold a government job of any kind.

Fuck these people. They want war? Well, there's a penalty for committing one against the country you're sworn to serve.
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Republican stonewalling of Scalia's replacement is treason (Original Post) jmowreader Feb 2016 OP
They can stonewall all they want, he can juse recess apoint. davepc Feb 2016 #1
He would have to wait for a recess randys1 Feb 2016 #3
There are plenty of them on their schedule for this year....nt 2naSalit Feb 2016 #9
they never actually recess Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #26
Thanks, I couldn't remember the decision. 2naSalit Feb 2016 #30
national labor relations board Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #33
They don't recess, though. nt valerief Feb 2016 #29
It would motivate dems to vote Liberal_in_LA Feb 2016 #2
Yep, this is a win win , either the fucks do their god damn job, or it infuriates enough randys1 Feb 2016 #4
Nonsense. It is most certainly not treason. The Senate may confirm, reject, or not act on nominees. tritsofme Feb 2016 #5
Sauce for the goose jmowreader Feb 2016 #12
And you feel that since they were wrong... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #37
It is not an act of war, it is not treason. It is an argument that makes you look foolish. tritsofme Feb 2016 #39
Apparently you didn't really understand the definitions of treason you posted. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #6
The leaders of the Confederacy were never deemed traitors jaysunb Feb 2016 #7
They damn well should have been treated as the traitors they were meow2u3 Feb 2016 #15
Yes, they should have, and that's why we have jaysunb Feb 2016 #22
A huge pet peeve of mine is when people throw around "treason" without knowing what it means davidn3600 Feb 2016 #8
Yep TeddyR Feb 2016 #28
Not every act of obstruction is treason. True, they don't believe in governance or government.... Hekate Feb 2016 #10
You want them killed? stone space Feb 2016 #11
Once again C_U_L8R Feb 2016 #13
They would be subverting the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES that they pretend to cherish! B Calm Feb 2016 #14
Just how would the repukes be subverting the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES? GGJohn Feb 2016 #18
Treason? GGJohn Feb 2016 #16
They'll try to stop him. Now the presidential race suddenly matters more. Can he get an appointment craigmatic Feb 2016 #17
He can nominate, but it's the Senate that has to confirm his choice, GGJohn Feb 2016 #19
Probably somewhere between jack and shit although it doesn't take 11 months to confirm a nominee. craigmatic Feb 2016 #20
It really shouldn't take but a couple of weeks at the most to confirm, GGJohn Feb 2016 #23
Still we let them have Thomas's seat after Marshall. LBJ got Marshall in during 1968. craigmatic Feb 2016 #25
So true robhalf4369 Feb 2016 #21
What's true? GGJohn Feb 2016 #24
It's not treason it's poison politics. Constitution says all that stuff but it doesn't say when they craigmatic Feb 2016 #27
I am so glad that most of us here understand how our Constitution actually works, GGJohn Feb 2016 #32
I don't think TeddyR Feb 2016 #31
Obviously it's treason, not to mention genocide, and carpetbagging, and heresy. DesMoinesDem Feb 2016 #34
LOL, I see what you did there. GGJohn Feb 2016 #36
... rbrnmw Feb 2016 #38
Ever Republican senator should be whipped until they agree to confirm. AngryAmish Feb 2016 #35
Are there legal remedies to prevent it? flamingdem Feb 2016 #40
FFS, no it's not treason (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #41

randys1

(16,286 posts)
4. Yep, this is a win win , either the fucks do their god damn job, or it infuriates enough
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:34 PM
Feb 2016

to show up and vote

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
5. Nonsense. It is most certainly not treason. The Senate may confirm, reject, or not act on nominees.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:37 PM
Feb 2016

That is their prerogative.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
12. Sauce for the goose
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:57 PM
Feb 2016

The GOP told us when Shrub Bush was gearing up for an unnecessary war against Saddam Hussein that anyone who failed to support a sitting president during wartime was a traitor. And the far right has decided anything President Obama has done since he started campaigning for the office of senator from Illinois, including doing things they actually liked. Since the definition of treason has been changed to "anything our opponent does or doesn't do," the GOP claiming they're going to reject every Supreme Court nominee the president sends to the Senate before he even decides on one has GOT to be an act of war against the country.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
37. And you feel that since they were wrong...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:08 PM
Feb 2016

...you feel entitled to be wrong as well?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/act-of-war
>> an act of aggression by a country against another with which it is nominally at peace.

You're new at this aren't you.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
7. The leaders of the Confederacy were never deemed traitors
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:43 PM
Feb 2016

and if so, they certainly weren't punished for their actions. So, you can forget about punishing or branding this current iteration.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
8. A huge pet peeve of mine is when people throw around "treason" without knowing what it means
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:43 PM
Feb 2016

No. It's not treason.

The Senate has the constitutonal right to reject any nominee. We have check and balance power in this nation. The president is not a dictator or a monarch.

Go to North Korea if you want to live in a country where it's treason to disagree with the leader.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
10. Not every act of obstruction is treason. True, they don't believe in governance or government....
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:44 PM
Feb 2016

....and they are bastards, no question about that.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
11. You want them killed?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:48 PM
Feb 2016
Fuck these people. They want war? Well, there's a penalty for committing one against the country you're sworn to serve.


You did post the penalty, after all, before adding this line at the end.


GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
18. Just how would the repukes be subverting the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:09 PM
Feb 2016

Their Constitutional duties are to either confirm, reject or take no action on the President's choice for the SC.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
16. Treason?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:07 PM
Feb 2016

Where do you get treason? This doesn't even rise to sedition.

The President nominates a candidate, the Senate can either confirm, reject or take no action, that's their duties under our Constitution, so, how would they be traitors?

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
17. They'll try to stop him. Now the presidential race suddenly matters more. Can he get an appointment
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:09 PM
Feb 2016

before his term is over?

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
19. He can nominate, but it's the Senate that has to confirm his choice,
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:10 PM
Feb 2016

what do you think the chances of that happening are?

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
20. Probably somewhere between jack and shit although it doesn't take 11 months to confirm a nominee.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:13 PM
Feb 2016

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
23. It really shouldn't take but a couple of weeks at the most to confirm,
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:14 PM
Feb 2016

but we all know that ain't going to happen.

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
25. Still we let them have Thomas's seat after Marshall. LBJ got Marshall in during 1968.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:18 PM
Feb 2016

I know that was a long time ago but it could still happen.

robhalf4369

(31 posts)
21. So true
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:13 PM
Feb 2016

But the GOP just won't listen to reason. They are truly rotten and corrupt to the core, and will stop at nothing to screw over this country.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
24. What's true?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:16 PM
Feb 2016

That the repukes would be committing treason if they don't take any action on the President's nominee?

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
27. It's not treason it's poison politics. Constitution says all that stuff but it doesn't say when they
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:21 PM
Feb 2016

have to do it or how fast.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
32. I am so glad that most of us here understand how our Constitution actually works,
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:29 PM
Feb 2016

and don't fall for that treason nonsense just because we don't agree with the repukes obstructionist policies, and the repukes are masters at that.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
31. I don't think
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:23 PM
Feb 2016

You know the definition of treason. Refusing to confirm a Supreme Court nominee certainly isn't treason.

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
34. Obviously it's treason, not to mention genocide, and carpetbagging, and heresy.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:47 PM
Feb 2016

I probably should check the definition on some of these, but I'm pretty sure I'm right so i won't.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
35. Ever Republican senator should be whipped until they agree to confirm.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:49 PM
Feb 2016

Hard to dissent when your back is flayed away.

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