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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSCOTUS: the Constitution is clear
Upon a vacancy occurring, the president chooses a nominee. The Senate votes to confirm or reject.
There has been a vacancy. It is the president's task to nominate a successor. The Constitution does NOT say "except if it's an election year, and the opposition party wants a shot at the White House first."
If McTurtle wanted Scalia to ride out Obama's term, he should have tried to pass a law that SCOUTS justices should not be allowed to eat veal scallopini more than once a week or something. Scalia was 79. Not everyone lives beyond that age, even if they are in good health. Both of my parents unfortunately fell into that category.
This is Obama's chance to literally change the course of history. It is his chance to correct an unhealthy rightward shift on the Court wrought by Bush, Sr., Reagan and Cheney (there's no way Bush Lite would have understood a word said in the Oval Office discussions with Roberts or Alito). It will be temporary, even if he succeeds. Bader-Ginsburg is 80 and battling pancreatic cancer. Breyer is nearing 80. The next president, whoever he (or she) is, will probably be nominating at least two new SCOTUS members--more likely three. If it's a Republican, we're screwed again. If we win the White House, we will have a chance to steer American history back leftward the way the radical right has steered it their way for the last decades. (Do I even need to put up a flag here to anyone who claims they won't vote for the Democratic nominee if it's not their first choice?)
This is an unexpected chance for Obama to score one last(-ing) decisive accomplishment in his 8 year quest at damage control. He should take it starting five minutes ago. Do the Republicans want to play the disruptive Party Of No during an election campaign? That may go down well in Mississippi and Oklahoma, but there are plenty of States where they have an interest in not looking like blocking all of the country's business.
Granted, Obama won't have the luxury of picking another "wise Latina," not with a Republican majority in the Senate. But he might get through someone like Steve Breyer, and that would be fine, especially if the nominee is under 60. Law is Obama's area of expertise. There is no excuse (or even a reason) to delay this for even a minute. Cruz and McConnell screaming for a delay is all the more reason for Obama to publicly state that he is working overtime to present a suitable nominee to the Senate ASAP ("I'm going to do MY job, even if I can't force the Senate to do theirs." . There isn't an American with an IQ over 50 out there who thinks that a Republican president would have delayed for a year the search for a nominee--not with the ideological tilt of the Court hanging in the balance.
There IS one question that none of us can answer, but I'm wildly curious about anyway: WHO will be telling Clarence Thomas how to vote from now on?
randys1
(16,286 posts)DFW
(54,405 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)Not that Roberts would be such a gem.
that's the best one I've seen this year
plus5mace
(140 posts)And she'll call up David Koch.
DFW
(54,405 posts)It's easier if Scalia left an order of succession. This would assume, of course, that Scalia knew he was mortal.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)He resigned from the white house environmental council. He would never past muster in front of the senate.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Sri Srinavasin
who was just approved 97-0, if they then say no we know it is political
which we know already
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)he was thrown under the bus by the administration.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)DFW
(54,405 posts)How will we know he has even noticed Scalia's absence until there is a vote?
Liberal Jesus Freak
(1,451 posts)Fly on the wall I wish I could be
PWPippin
(213 posts)DeadLetterOffice
(1,352 posts)And as pointed out on twitter, Scalia himself was confirmed in 85 days -- 48 days before the November election that year where the GOP lost the Senate.
DFW
(54,405 posts)Obama needs to find a nominee and present him/her ASAP.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)I wouldn't be surprised it it happens shortly after his funeral (to the sound of Republican gnashing of teeth).
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)It took two years to fill a seat vacated in 1844 under Tyler. It wasn't filled until 1846, over a year into Polk's term.
But that was about 230 years ago.
DFW
(54,405 posts)Wow, I think that was even before the internet.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)And in 1987 there was a vacancy for over seven months when Bork was rejected and Douglas Ginsburg withdrew his name from consideration to fill Powell's seat.
onenote
(42,714 posts)Bork was rejected and Douglas Ginsburg withdrew -- it was over seven months before that vacancy was filled. And when Nixon's nominations of Haynsworth and Carswell were rejected by the Senate, it ended up leaving the court with a vacant seat for over a year (Fortas resigned in May 1969 and Blackmun was finally confirmed to fill the vacancy in June 1970).
DeadLetterOffice
(1,352 posts)However, I still think GOP arguments that Obama shouldn't nominate a candidate for SCOTUS are pure BS.
DFW
(54,405 posts)This is just for Fox headlines while names are being considered.
What they are really concerned with is blocking the nominee/nomination without suffering too much damage for doing so.
onenote
(42,714 posts)I believe Obama will wait until after the funeral to announce his choice.
What ensues will be quite interesting and will unite, at least a little bit, the
opposing sides on DU in this primary.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)When are they going to bury the prick?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)DFW
(54,405 posts)A few Republican Senators up for re-election this fall are in swing states, and don't need to be giving this kind of free ammuntition to their Democratic challengers
Hekate
(90,714 posts)....to forestall what is assuredly coming from the GOP in the Senate.
There are some good candidates n the pipeline -- not as many as there might have been if the Congress had not tried to block every damn thing Obama ever tried to do, but,still a good pack to pick from.
Fingers crossed.
I don't get US TV here anyway. I don't play golf with him on weekends, but from what I do know from my limited time with him, my bet is that he speaks out and won't hesitate to make a nomination--probably within two weeks.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)....and the Senate will have plenty of time to vote, and they must do their duty and responsibility as well.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Very classy
I knew he'd come through.
Now, all I want to hear is the line from the 700 year old knight in the third Indiana Jones movie: "He chose wisely."
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... up until now. If ANYONE says they won't vote at all if their candidate doesn't win the primaries, then those people don't deserve to call themselves Democrats.
If that evil bag of rat excrement, Mitch McConnell, fucks with Obama's appointment, obliterate him! Figuratively speaking, of course. But obliterate him nonetheless. He has been a stain on the nation's reputation for far too long as it is.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)DFW
(54,405 posts)The twin prizes that divide us from the Republicans like chasm as deep as the Mariana trench.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)that would allow recess appointments under the Supreme Court's decision in NLRB v Canning.
Here's what was stated at the end of Friday's session:
Mr. McCONNELL. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate completes its business today, it adjourn, to then convene for pro forma sessions only, with no business being conducted, on the following dates and times, and that following each pro forma session, the Senate adjourn until the next pro forma session: Monday, February 15, at 11 a.m.; Thursday, February 18, at 9 a.m.; I further ask that when the Senate adjourns on Thursday, February 18, it next convene at 3 p.m., Monday, February 22, unless the Senate receives a message from the House that it has adopted S. Con. Res. 31, and that if the Senate receives such a message, it stand adjourned until 3 p.m., Monday, February 22; that following the prayer and pledge, the morning hour be deemed expired, the Journal of proceedings be approved to date, and the time for the two leaders be reserved for their use later in the day; I ask that following the prayer and pledge, Senator Coons be recognized to deliver Washington's Farewell Address; further, that following the reading of Washington's Farewell Address, the Senate be in a period of morning business until 5:30 p.m., with Senators permitted to speak therein for up to 10 minutes each.
CONDITIONAL ADJOURNMENT UNTIL MONDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 2016, AT 11 A.M.
Mr. MCCONNELL. Mr. President, if there is no further business to come be- fore the Senate, I ask unanimous con- sent that it stand adjourned under the previous order.
There being no objection, the Senate, at 10:19 a.m., conditionally adjourned until Monday, February 15, 2016, at 11 a.m.
DFW
(54,405 posts)If he has to, he'll chain enough Republican Senators to their desks next to a Johnny-on-the-spot to make sure there is no recess before the end of the calendar year.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Dead. I'm DEAD!
DFW
(54,405 posts)I'm sure any such statue would be worded so as to apply only to Republican-appointed members of the Court.