***** LIVE feed: #OregonStandoff Ends - Cliven Bundy Jailed - #BundyTeaParty *****

[L. Coyote]

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Please post updates as they happen. This thread is intended to be a live blog of the Malheur surrender, scheduled for 8 AM.[center]

The KGW LIVE feed at the roadblock: http://interactive.kgw.com/mobile/breaking-video-2.html
(Might not work in all browsers, Flash player security settings)

LIVE this morning (on edit):

The insanity and lots of praying last night:

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They were screaming "Fuck you" at the FBI. Didn't look promising at that hour, too insane. "You are going to have to kill us or leave."

Meanwhile, we await details of the Bundy arrest last night. I assume it went down in the airport where he had to be unarmed. This according to tweets.
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Wanda Moore ?@WandaKTVZ 20 minutes ago
Sunrise on the refuge and possibly last day of #OregonStandoff
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Dan Zak ?@MrDanZak 34 minutes ago
I listened to four hours of live audio from the #Oregonstandoff last night. It was riveting and ridiculous:

=== Previously in this soap opera ===

#BundyTeaParty Day 30: What you need to know = four holdouts await divine intervention =

Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum shot and killed while charging police, driver says

BLM tab, $1,000,000.00, Cliven Bundy trying to write a letter, priceless.

#RefugeRally chant went from "birds not bullies" to "throw the bums in jail" #Oregonstandoff 43 pics

Happening now: Bundy breaking down fence on refuge #BundyTeaParty

The #BundyBunch was spotted this morning, foraging for snacks.

[lamp_shade]

1. The video is from yesterday. Here's a live feed from KGW tv.

http://interactive.kgw.com/mobile/breaking-video-2.html

[2naSalit]

5. Thanks for the link!

I think the yootoob set up was taken down or disabled. The stuff from last night is on a loop.

[L. Coyote]

6. Link to T-V coverage:

Refuge occupiers say they'll surrender Thursday morning at 8 a.m. VIDEO news

Mike Warner ?@MikeKATU
... and another sunrise shot from yesterday. It was amazing enough to require 2 days of photos, at least #LiveOnK2


Lincoln Graves ?@LincolnGraves
#BREAKING @StephenKATU reports witnesses on Bundy's flight from Vegas say SWAT team was at gate upon arrival. #OregonStandoff #LiveOnK2

" target="_blank">LIVE feed from the roadblock.

[valerief]

111. Damn, those people are stooooooopid. nt

[annabanana]

146. Jiminy . . this guy is suiciding by Fed here!

He's a sick sob

[longship]

2. Will R&K in support. (Updated)

I do not have download here to click through.

Looks good that this will be over today. And the remainders will likely be arrested as well in spite of protestations to the contrary.

I have been following your posts on this. They are damned good.

[malaise]

3. Crazy does not quite describe him

Like he doesn't understand he's on their property. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah this is fall down funny - he needs mental health care

[L. Coyote]

4. The revolution is starting tomorrow if they can just get themselves killed today. Delusional!

"Hillary is still out there running for president, you fucking asshole." If Hillary stops running for president, they'll say she's still not in jail.

[Mendocino]

7. I wish they were streaming from inside right now,

imagine the freakout going on with the Bundefuhrer now in custody.

[L. Coyote]

8. Cliven Bundy to appear in court at 1:30 today in Portland.

Ethan Walker ?@HVAC_Plumbing_ 14 minutes ago
KATUNews: Booking photo released for Cliven Bundy, father of militia leader Ammon. Updates #liveOnK2


The Bulletin ?@thebulletin 2 minutes ago
Cliven Bundy jailed with his sons. http://j.mp/1LjdGLX #Oregonstandoff #MalheurOccupation

Stephen Mayer ?@StephenKATU 9 hours ago
Cliven Bundy just landed at PDX and was 'detained' by police per this supporter who's here to escort him. #LiveOnK2


Mike Warner ?@MikeKATU
Run for your lives! Wait... Mt. Hood NOT erupting, just an AMAZING sunrise! But it kinda looks like... #LiveOnK2

[L. Coyote]

9. LIVE video from the occupiers is back now, Fiore en route and on the phone again.

Captain Gavin back at the controls and the livestream is back up. Bring on Pedro & live call ins. #OregonStandoff

"How do you know if you are doing what God's want you to do?" Shaun

[snooper2]

10. We are both on it LOL, was just going to post that- David Crying ROFLMAO

Praying and Crying little bitch David Fry

[geomon666]

11. Gavin Seim needs to be fucking arrested

He keeps feeding these people's delusions and interfering with FBI negotiations.

[L. Coyote]

12. I'm hoping Fiore leaves in handcuffs

for conspiracy.

[Mendocino]

13. Did Michelle bring

coffee and donuts with her?

[L. Coyote]

14. Fiore is getting into the FBI car now, Gavin says don't let them take your phone.

[polly7]

15. This is hard to listen to.

These people are terrified and deluded, the person talking to them is not helping at all.

[snooper2]

16. It is fucking hilarious...The comments on the live stream are better, I'm contributing ROFL

GO BRAVEHEART GO!

[polly7]

17. All they have to do is surrender and face a little jail time.

The people encouraging them to continue on with their bullshit should be arrested also. People on both sides can be killed ... for what?? It's just crazy.

[snooper2]

18. 95% of the comments are making fun of these fools, can they take the dildos into Jail?

How about the leftover snacks?

Oh, and only one side has the option to die here...if anyone David Fry might want to go out in a blaze of glory

[polly7]

20. I so hope no-one will be hurt.

Earlier, it was really bad ..... they were absolutely terrified, especially the woman, and it seemed like they were ready for anything but surrender.

It was scary.

[snooper2]

21. I listened to it all...PRAY PRAY PRAY! Pray for BRAVEHEART ROFL

Oh, and last night Sandy the stupid woman said she wouldn't come out, without her gun

[geomon666]

23. He needs it.

[polly7]

24. How do people become that deluded??

I heard them even say (paraphrasing) 'fuck their families' when someone on the phone brought it up when things looked really bad for a bit there, that they didn't even care about them.

The male phone guy keeps saying 'you guys are just standing up for your rights - the FBI are acting illegally, etc. etc. He's encouraging them to die, imo. Wtf isn't he there right with them?

[L. Coyote]

28. The crazy wingnuts have their own echo chamber, as we are hearing right now. Belief supercedes all.

Facts cannot interfere with true belief.

jay ?@xeromachine
more attention-deprived politicians are there, yay! #Oregonstandoff

BevMarie ?@evenbev
#oregonstandoff. Gavin thinks his audience is supporters. Instead it is the greatest PSA against "patriot" movement ever.

David Bates @DavidBWriter
David Fry wants to know why Americans aren't outraged. We are outraged, dude. We're outraged you're still f---ing there. #OregonStandoff

[dixiegrrrrl]

244. "How do people become that deluded??"

I am pretty sure it is teh radiation in their drinking water or something out in the desert states.

[L. Coyote]

26. Now we have a good Darwinian reason for prayer, to calm down the insane!

As an anthropologist in my old age, that's a relief.

[malaise]

57. They want them dead - how else will it help

ReTHUGs

[L. Coyote]

22. Amazing how fast that feed is rolling. Fiore found her glasses and can see again.

Tarps and the Lord versus bullet proof glass. But the Lord may be late, they are waiting for Rev. Graham.

Guns are in the vehicles, the vehicles are cleared, there are loaded weapons around that were left by others.

They are walking out unarmed they say.

[snooper2]

25. I love the braveheart comments LOL- and- Y'All Quedas LAST STAND!

[L. Coyote]

19. They are coming out with LaVoy's bible, FBI says O.K.

OPB News Verified account ?@OPBnews 2 minutes ago
We're updating our story online as developments in the #Oregonstandoff continue: http://ow.ly/Ydn6N

Jared H ?@vw55to07
I can't wait for the #OregonStandoff to stop #occupying my @twitter!

Jane's Insane ?@janesinsane
i don't know if i can listen to Gavin, he's such a damn instigator. imo he has his own agenda- it's NOT for peace

They saw a cross in the flames of the campfire last night. And other signs are aooearing, ... the "Lord telling us we have his love..." "some people think we are fruitcakes ..." but god loves us.

About 10 miles away now. Fiore meeting with Graham's to drive there together, at the FBI office in Burns she thinks, doesn't know where she is. Fiore can't read the signs without her glasses on!

[snooper2]

27. They still think they are just following the constitution ROFLMAO

Enjoy Prison assholes!

[L. Coyote]

29. Sean Anderson comparing selves to Jesus in terms of persecution

joe ?@joetothemo
Sean Anderson comparing selves to Jesus in terms of persecution #Oregonstandoff

Mike Walker @New_Narrative
“@conradjwilson: This is what I'm seeing at the roadblock outside the refuge #Oregonstandoff ”


Gavin's feed is trying to keep this going, it seems. KGW8 is playing the Live stream and breaking to their own news team. Three OPS vehicles showed up at roadblock to clear road for coming vehicles.

[snooper2]

30. You hear that crazy lady on phone! trying to get them to stay and stand!

lol

These fucking idiots are going to get them killed after all

[L. Coyote]

46. Time to screen callers. Fiore and Graham near checkpoint. Helicopter and drone over occupation.

Tactical vehicle will approach the barrier. Occupiers will be brought to them in custody after walking out.

Best advice so far, "Go to the bathroom right now, make sure you have enough caffeine, ... " and fill your little tummies with food.

They want to stop at a Denny's on the way to jail. Michele sees a tractor, the realizes it might be too common to be an Oregon landmark. Dufus!

Now they are talking country music stars .....

[Tommy_Carcetti]

31. Wait, is someone playing Alvin and the Chipmunks? nt

[geomon666]

32. God could not provide better cellular reception.

I'm sure the song will sound better in prison.

[snooper2]

33. Sounded like it LOL..just Victoria's crazy mom singing

PREPARE TO GET ARRESTED ASSHOLES!

Gavin dick should be to for supporting terrorists

[flamingdem]

34. Is there audio? I can't get it

just got on DU

[brooklynite]

37. Here...

[flamingdem]

40. Thanks, got here in time for the Gran Finale

[brooklynite]

35. Franklin Graham want's to give domestic terrorists a "big hug"...

[L. Coyote]

36. Two of the Nevada State Reps supporting the #Malheur militants are part of Ted Cruz's Nevada team

Jeanine Gravitt ?@MsMarchHare
#VictoriaSharp's mom is trying to ramp up the hysteria. ARREST HER. #oregonstandoff

Casey Michel ?@cjcmichel
Two of the Nevada State Reps supporting the #Malheur militants are part of Ted Cruz's Nevada team:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/feb/11/oregon-standoff-militia-fbi-negotiations-live-coverage-oregon-malheur-wildlife-refuge #OregonStandoff

[Brickbat]

38. They're talking so oddly I can't tell if they're trying to use code or are just that weird.

[geomon666]

39. They're that weird.

Completely delusional and mindfucked from all the religion and rightwing radio.

[Brickbat]

44. No, I know that.

It's a little sad. Who has that kind of time?

[geomon666]

45. Sean doesn't work

Because he's an alcoholic, abusive piece of shit. So he's probably been getting government handouts from the illegal government.

[snooper2]

42. They are just nuts- Saw one comment- DILDOS UP DON'T SHOOT

LOL


Oh, and Fiore is telling them to go pee

[brooklynite]

41. "Please go pee now..."

History in the making.

[Brickbat]

43. OMFG she's telling them to pee before this trip like they're four.

[L. Coyote]

52. And, "make sure you have enough caffeine in you" for the long day ahead, no Starbucks stops ....

Wait, shouldn't that be Tea!!
I assume these are tips from the Redneck Bible, How to Surrender chapter.

[Quiet_Dem_Mom]

47. Here's Fiore in action in NV Assembly, telling fellow R to "Sit your ass down"

Short backstory on the legislation being discussed is a Bundy bill that Fiore requested during this past session. Legal staff told her the bill was unconstitutional. Of course, that doesn't slow her down! Proceed!

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/04/michele-fiore-rips-colleague-over-cliven

Be sure to stick around for the "apology" following the request for a one-minute recess.

As with most of the legislation she introduces, the bill went nowhere. In a R controlled legislature. With a R governor.

Effective!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

48. What's that about 50 Shades of Gray?

[brooklynite]

49. Something related to telling their story at a later date...

[geomon666]

50. They're afraid of fucking birds.

What great heroes these dipshits are.

[brooklynite]

51. "I like crows..."

"crows are pretty"

This is surreal.

[L. Coyote]

53. "Surreal" is what I was thinking as they started talking country music.

They really need to focus on something other than their predicament.
Looks like god has that covered, hope she does!

[L. Coyote]

54. "As a Christian nation ..." says Fiore, ranchers are listening, "America is paying attention"

Arming ourselves and civil disobedience is a good thing according to Fiore.

[RKP5637]

55. Time to send the white coats in. These folks are totally off their rockers. n/t

[flamingdem]

56. It's a trap!!

[geomon666]

58. .

[flamingdem]

61. "I'm going to meet you and hug you" - Michelle Fiore von Trapp

[panader0]

66. Tarpe Diem!

[L. Coyote]

68. DUzy

[pinboy3niner]

82. It's a tarp!

[flamingdem]

59. I got yer foundational principles

Michelle Fiore and spawn wish you a bullet ridden Christmas.

[dhill926]

138. man...

there's some fucked up DNA in that photo....

[Mendocino]

60. Is Gramham there yet?

Is he coming by mule?

[Quiet_Dem_Mom]

63. Maybe? Is he the one speaking to press on the KGW feed?

http://interactive.kgw.com/mobile/breaking-video-2.html

[Mendocino]

67. I think that is Mike Arnold

The attorney for Ammon Bundy.

[brooklynite]

64. As I understand things...

The four holdouts were transported to an FBI vehicle, which is bringing them to a van that has Graham in it.

[Mendocino]

70. Thank You

I've going back and forth to different reports and have missed some of the live stream. I listened to the whole feed last night from beginning until it ran out of steam, a little weary of it now.

[L. Coyote]

69. Now inside the military vehicle going into the refuge with Michele Fiore.

That's why she isn't on the phone any more.

Meanwhile, they are talking about stealing all the land from the feds again.

[brooklynite]

62. "we cleaned up the camp so everything's OK"...

[Kingofalldems]

65. Don't surrender! It's a cookbook!

[winstars]

71. Soylent Green is people!!!

[Mendocino]

74. One of them is "fried"

the others, put a fork in them.

[L. Coyote]

72. Anyone else looking forward to the handcuffs and these clowns being on mute.

"You do not have to be a lawyer to understand the Constitution" says a person who doesn't understand it.

[geomon666]

73. Perp walk will be amazing.

Even better if Michele Fiore is doing it too.

[L. Coyote]

75. Now there's a reason to pray! I'm hoping Michele gets arrested too, but I doubt it.

But, I'm not sending her roses for being able to relate to terrorists on their own level.

Right now the FBI is telling everyone to come out one at a time. Sandy is going first ...

[geomon666]

76. Bagpipe music?

Really?!

[nolabear]

80. They couldn't surrender until their screenplay was finished. Here's the theme song.

[L. Coyote]

77. Waiting for ther surrender music to start, then she can walk out to surrender to the authorities.

What the hell, is this a Hollywood show?
Wait for the director's cue!

MumpusWumpus ?@MumpusWumpus 1 minute ago
Is that from Braveheart? #Oregonstandoff

[Tommy_Carcetti]

78. TF--Surrender music? nt

[L. Coyote]

86. We are Soldiers, a Mel Gibson film?

Who is the woman on Gavin's feed?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

88. Looks like David doesn't want to go home. nt

[Iggo]

160. LOL...I don't think he's going home.

[randome]

79. "You have the right to remain silent so PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

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[nolabear]

81. Is there a visual stream anywhere?

[L. Coyote]

83. "How many people on live stream now?" 20K silence. Devin says, "Keep talking, keep talking guys."

"Looks like they have guns pointed on us."

"Don't put your hand in your pocket when you are walking out."

"They are not even pointing guns at us." Fry.

"Are they being gentle?" "Yeah." Awww... "They're not even pointing guns at us." Ouch. #NarrativeKiller #OregonStandoff

Jeff is going out. Fry left narrating.

[nolabear]

84. Boy, this is the whitest surrender that ever white surrendered.

[nolabear]

85. God, it's like listening to thirteen year olds talk philosophy.

[geomon666]

87. Dildo Dave

Sounds like he's going to get himself killed.

[randome]

89. Fry isn't coming out! "They can come get me."

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[geomon666]

92. "He's feeling suicidal"

The dude is breaking down.

[HooptieWagon]

117. I have the thought he's insane, and wants to die.

But not by suicide, he wants to be a martyr. Real messiah complex.

[wheniwasincongress]

90. I knew Dave would screw it all up!

damnit Dave!

[randome]

91. "I'm actually feeling suicidal right now."

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[L. Coyote]

93. Now David Fry may be refusing to surrender, making demands and not coming out.

Worried he will be ignored!

[flamingdem]

96. David was not impressed - only 20,000 listening

[L. Coyote]

106. Bringing up "circumcised men" might help!

now she says he has a ministry who is she?

[flamingdem]

94. David is looking for suicide by cop

"I will die a free man"

[snooper2]

95. I fucking knew it....I knew it LOL! David Fry wants to die a "warrior", he just said suicidal

[brooklynite]

100. I'm thinking he's disappointed that some evil Government sniper didn't bump him off.

[nolabear]

97. David's freaking out.

This could get bad.

[avebury]

98. David Fry sounds totally suicidal. nt

[Tommy_Carcetti]

99. Oh, David.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61CuxphQyvL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

[randome]

101. He's right, too, his 'message' will be ignored. I think that's what hurts him the most.

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[nolabear]

103. I expect you're right.

[L. Coyote]

102. "I'm a free man, I will die a free man." ... "Just call me on the cell phone to talk a little bit."

Fry is a loon. "This is my fort." "How come they don't call me?"

[ebayfool]

116. He doesn't want summer camp to end. n/t

[randome]

104. They've been trying this long to talk logic into him. I don't think it's going to work.

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[wheniwasincongress]

105. What has happened to the other three?

[NutmegYankee]

107. They surrendered.

David on the other hand wants to snack on hot lead.

[geomon666]

110. The others already surrendered

David is the last one.

[L. Coyote]

112. They are getting hugged by Michele Fiore, they thought.

Maybe they can get on the phone and tell David to get his shit together.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

108. David.....

[nolabear]

109. I still say no matter their crazy these guys are fabulous negotiators.

They're using the right words to talk to him. Get him where he lives. Paul and Silas, don't give them that power.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

119. When did this turn into a DU circumscism thread? nt

[nolabear]

113. I think he's gone full martyr. It's all he's got left.

[me b zola]

114. "Call me on the cellphone!"

LOL, missing that hotline bling

[snooper2]

127. He is full fucking crazy- Like a 8 year old- THIS IS MY FORT

[me b zola]

161. An eight year old who knows they're about to get punished

Listening to the inner workings of these people's minds is terrifyingly entertaining.

[randome]

115. "You still have a long life ahead of you."

Not sure if this is the correct thing to say because I think Fry sees the rest of his life as non-stop humiliation for this.
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[flamingdem]

123. I think they should promise him a book deal

and late night tv appearances.

[randome]

129. Stephen Colbert would be happy to have him on.

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[Kingofalldems]

118. David just declared war!!!

This is HUGH!!

[NutmegYankee]

120. WOOHOO - David declared war against the US Government!

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

Bye Bye Davy!

[randome]

121. For the future: Where were YOU when David Fry shot himself on live radio?

It will be a tragic waste if he kills himself.
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[Tommy_Carcetti]

125. Hey man, nice shot. nt

[snooper2]

131. sucks I have a conference call in 1 minute, I'll have to rely on my fellow trolls commenting

[L. Coyote]

122. "I declare war on the United states government right now." ... because I have grievences ... Fry

Who is the woman on the phone?

[valerief]

132. She's just trying to stupid-talk him into surrendering. He only understands stupid-talk.

But I don't know who she is.

[Quiet_Dem_Mom]

133. KrisAnne Hall, some RW talk show host

Here's her Twitter:

https://twitter.com/KrisAnneHall

Constitutnl Attny, Talk & TV Show Host, Author, Teacher: Liberty over Security-Principle over Party-Truth over Personality

[randome]

124. He's going on about taxpayer dollars being used for abortions.

It's probably good that no one's corrected him on this because you can't really reason with someone this clueless and it would only higlight his stupidity.
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[geomon666]

126. He wants to die because he doesn't want to pay taxes?

Fuck him, put him in the ground with Lavoy.

[valerief]

128. His grievance is, "My tax dollars are going to abortion."

Oh, Fox News must be so proud.

[nolabear]

130. Whoof. Why this guy? Why is he the last holdout?

Is it just that he's the craziest? Or does he have some particular history?

[randome]

135. A mediocre life is his history, I think. This is his one chance to be a hero.

And he failed. And he knows it.
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[nolabear]

137. Seemed the most likely scenario.

[ebayfool]

141. Read that his dad is a teabagger and even dad thinks he's nuts! n/t

[nolabear]

142. Be careful what you create.

[brooklynite]

134. Can someone explain to me why the negotiation is with a blogger...

...and not with an FBI professional?

[geomon666]

140. Because they'd rather talk with a fellow nutbag

than the FBI.

[randome]

145. Well, the FBI probably wouldn't have called him a coward as Fiore just did.

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[valerief]

136. He's risking his life over a word he probably can't even spell.

Grievances.

[L. Coyote]

139. "How about you back away a little bit, you guys are freaking me out." Fry to FBI

[brooklynite]

143. I'm thinking this guy is losing his connection to these "fellow patriots"

[csziggy]

156. When the woman told him to not be a coward and to go on out

I thought he was going to stop talking to them completely, screaming "Don't call me a coward!"

I could tell the people on the line with him were panicked that they were going to get him killed by upsetting him.

Now he's going on about how he is 33 and Christ was 33.

He's not going to get out of this alive, I'm afraid.

[flamingdem]

144. Is David a manic-depressive or just an attention seeking idiot?

If he's manic-depressive I think he might end up getting shot. If he's an idiot he'll eventually get tired and give up but that will only be after another few hours go by while he gets the attention he craves.

[randome]

147. Maybe the autopsy can tell.

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[flamingdem]

153. FBI photo of David -

Dang, he was jeebus all along

[nolabear]

152. I think David is at present hysterical and in real danger of suicide.

His whole world has crumbled. It isn't bipolar. It might be manic but it's the mania of trying to survive in some twisted way when everything he thought he had, however delusional, is gone.

[flamingdem]

166. I agree he is hysterical

I looked up the meaning and it fits:

Hysterical disorders
Hysteria may be a defense mechanism to avoid painful emotions by unconsciously transferring this distress to the body. There may be a symbolic function for this, for example a rape victim may develop paralyzed legs. Symptoms may mimic a number of physical and neurological disorders which must be ruled out before a diagnosis of hysteria is made.

Histrionic personality disorder
According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition (DSM-IV), individuals with histrionic personality possess at least five of the following symptoms or personality features:

a need to be the center of attention
inappropriate, sexually seductive, or provocative behavior while interacting with others
rapidly changing emotions and superficial expression of emotions
vague and impressionistic speech (gives opinions without any supporting details)
easily influenced by others
believes relationships are more intimate than they are.

[nolabear]

172. Yeah, I'm a shrink. It's a horrid, complex thing. I feel for him in some ways.

That doesn't mean I really know what's going on since I don't know him but he hits all the high points for someone who is talking himself into an escalating hysteria and a potential impulsive act.

[nolabear]

174. Possible good sign, asking for absolute protection. It opens a tiny possibility.

[flamingdem]

185. The description says they are easily influenced

He seems to be very difficult to influence.

He's not too bright if he's only worried now about prison rape. I think that points to him having decided to go out in a storm of bullets at one point.

[nolabear]

209. He's just going back and forth, trying to find some resolution, even death.

[Brickbat]

164. I think he had real mental issues before this and this has only exacerbated them.

[nolabear]

148. Dave's not here, man.

[L. Coyote]

149. "I'm not coming out until my demands are met." Fry

Now she called him a coward.

Greg Kielec ?@gkielec
KrisAnne Hall and Gavin Seim running out of biblical scripture to convince David Fry to surrender. #BundyMilitia #OregonStandoff

[brooklynite]

150. The Roman Government paid for abortions..."

[randome]

151. Also probably not a good idea to bring up Jesus because Fry pointed out that Jesus died.

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[randome]

154. He's turning on his negotiators.

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[valerief]

155. He wants to not pay taxes. What a numbnuts. I hate that most of my

taxes go to WAR and WAR PROFITEERS. And BULLSHIT like this asshole is causing.

[nolabear]

157. Boy I'm jumpy as hell. Every bump makes me startle.

[polly7]

158. This is sad. I wish he had family talking to him, or someone other than these

deluded assholes.

[geomon666]

165. He doesn't care about his family.

He left his family while they were on vacation in Costa Rica to join these idiots.

[polly7]

170. But his mind is trapped in these idiots cause ...

someone from his past might be able to at least jar him back to reality a bit. He needs help, badly. That lady mentioning the word coward I thought was going to drive him over the edge.

[brooklynite]

159. "You guys aren't willing to sacrifice..."

He's turning on them.

[brooklynite]

169. Whoa! Where did this bit about Muslims come from?

[Elwood P Dowd]

162. Levoy stepped out for a peaceful resolution? He tried to run over an FBI agent and then

reached for his gun. This woman knows how to lie her ass off.

[pinebox]

163. These people are flippin' nutters

My GF is a staunch 2A Libertarain, AR's and all and she is on my side with this & agrees these people are terrorists in the purest form. Absolutely no question about it.

Scary people who are brainwashed just like a cult brainwashes its members.

[NutmegYankee]

167. Sovereign citizens. NT

[pinebox]

182. Yes, agreed 100%

[Brickbat]

168. Yeah, I feel bad for David Fry. The others are wilfully ignorant. He's got mental issues.

He's functional, but clearly struggling.

[Databuser]

171. And there is Panic On The Prairie

David is gettin' colder feet....

[randome]

175. He's afraid of being raped in jail.

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[nolabear]

181. He's terrified and his mind is filling in the blanks.

[polly7]

190. Yes, I agree with that. I feel awful for him. nt.

[nolabear]

176. Okay the Lone Ranger theme made me LOL.

[Elwood P Dowd]

177. SNL has a gold mine in these idiots. Hell, they could start a weekly Bundy Bunch series

and it would last an entire season.

[L. Coyote]

193. Very tempting to whip out a fiction tome.

But how does one write a stranger than fiction fiction?

[Brickbat]

178. Oh honey.

His biggest fear is getting raped in jail.

[brooklynite]

179. Does anyone else think they'll put him in a "special" prision...with padded walls?

[Brickbat]

183. It's what he needs over jail, IMO.

[NutmegYankee]

192. Yeah, he really does need mental help. nt

[valerief]

180. The shithead should have thought about being raped in prison before he pulled this bullshit. nt

[randome]

184. Wouldn't it be cool if, when the FBI sneaked in earlier, they unloaded all the guns?

They need a sniper with a tranquilizer dart now.
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[ghostsinthemachine]

186. HOLY CRAP, just tuned in again this AM

And holy crap is this guy a whack job or what? Really, it bothers me that I live on the same planet that this person does. Poor boy, scared of being raped in prison. Poor baby. Wow. Just fucking wow.

Turned out aobut nine and jsut hopped back on so if someone can nutshell what has been going on all day I'd appreciate it.

[csziggy]

198. Three have turned themselve in - David Fry is having a meltdown

And turning suicidal. The livestream guy and some woman are trying to talk him down.

Synopsis:
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/oregon_standoff_last_4_occupie.html

[ghostsinthemachine]

216. thanks

Poor guy. Bit off more than he can chew. Let's hope he comes out okay and doesn't do something stupid. But becoming a martyr (and yes he will become one if he goes the wrong way here) is a powerful stimulus.

It is sad to see someone so deluded, in so many ways, his mind is so perverted that he cannot think straight.

[ghostsinthemachine]

217. Ha, it comes down to pot!

Who didn't see this one coming? Ha ha ha. Stoner laugh.......

[L. Coyote]

187. "If you walk out of there right now, you will have millions of viewers ..."

"God's in control of this ..." If that were true, wouldn't Pope Francis be here now?

[brooklynite]

188. He seems to bounce between calm and hysterical...

...in any case, these amateurs should not be doing the negotiation.

[randome]

189. I think they've made several mistakes.

If Fry's suicide has any positive consequences, it will be that these nutbags talking to him will be labeled as failures, too.
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[brooklynite]

191. Wasn't the point of Franklin Graham showing up to help with the surrender?

[randome]

194. "I'm actually pointing a gun at my head."

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[Brickbat]

196. Oh, hell.

[Glitterati]

195. ROFL, for all his big, bad ass BS, he's a chickenshit!

What a pathetic human being.

[brooklynite]

197. "I'M ACTUALLY POINTING A GUN AT MY HEAD"

[Databuser]

199. Give me Pizza, Or....

That pobucker is Triple Z Crazzzy....

[IcyPeas]

200. my tax dollars will NOT pay for his pizza

[L. Coyote]

207. She is a wingnut broadcaster on Gavin channel. Time to pray says Gavin.

Fry now listening to FBI maybe. "I need promised protection" Fry to phone.

[L. Coyote]

201. Full circle as we get back to snacks as he points a gun at his head.

"You guys killed him." Fry on Christ ...

[valerief]

202. Who the fuck is The Helper? Damn, I don't know all this Jesus shit. nt

[haele]

257. John 14:26. Jesus' last speach to John

Bible Hub has it this way - 14:26 "But the Helper (other versions say Comforter or Advocate), which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

Chapter 14 starts out: “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God[a]; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”

That's my guess.

[Solly Mack]

203. Seems to me the people talking with him are feeding his delusions.

Well, the ones we can hear the best.

[valerief]

206. Of course. He's a fuckin' crazy criminal. Why would they do anything differently? nt

[Solly Mack]

229. You don't feed the delusions. You calm them, or try.

They aren't calming him. They are saying contradictory things (laying aside how crazy they, too, sound at times).

Yes, every now and then they tell him he will be a bigger hero if he comes out peacefully, but then when he talks about Jesus dying for his beliefs, they agree how necessary that was.

See...just now..."It's in God's hands" - but the idiot thinks in terms of dying for God and country.

Yes, I know they can't really promise anything since the FBI is going to take over as soon as he gets out. (if he gets out alive)

See..there again...set an example for the rest of us...Christ did...Christ did it by dying.

Feeding his sickness. Not calming him at all.


I know the people are right-wingers too. They shouldn't be allowed to speak with him. Especially since they aren't calming things at all.

[L. Coyote]

212. Ring wing radio nuts, what do you expect at a Tea Party? Even their prayers are delusional.

"I'm really confused right now." Fry

[Solly Mack]

233. I know they're idiots too. That's why they shouldn't be allowed to talk with him.

It's sick. It's all just plain sick.

[nolabear]

204. Good ploy, Jesus walked out. He might be utterly past that though.

[randome]

205. "I'm tired, everybody." Pretty soon he'll say 'Goodbye' and that will be that.

Unless the FBI can sneak in and tranq him.
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[polly7]

208. He's so scared. Why isn't an FBI negotiator talking to him? nt.

[Elwood P Dowd]

215. Because all he did last night was curse at them and call them names maybe? (nt)

[polly7]

224. He really needs someone besides these fanatics though. There's got to be

someone who can talk some sense into him. They're making him crazier minute by minute.

[SummerSnow]

210. I'm going to call them 'The Bundy 4'. Not to be confused with the Bundy 4 on 'Married with Children'

[flamingdem]

211. Fer krissakes lure him with a bag of Cheetos!

What are they waiting for.

[brooklynite]

213. "I'm really confused right now..."

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Databuser]

214. "Hush, Harriet! That's a sure way to get him killed! "

Praise Mel Brooks

[Brickbat]

218. "All I needed was my marijuana!" Don't we all, son. OTOH, he was probably self-medicating

with that. And now without it, he's cracking up. It's actually really sad.

[NutmegYankee]

225. As much as I hate this terrorist motherfucker...

And want to see him get his comeuppance, my bleeding heart liberal side is kicking in and I'm actually feeling sad for him. He's so obviously ill in the head.

[Brickbat]

228. Yep. As I say, the others were willfully ignorant and trying to be destructive. This guy is just

flailing and lost. He thought he finally found a place to belong, and now it's crumbling around him.

[nolabear]

232. I feel very sad for him. What a terrible life. He feels utterly betrayed by his ideology.

Yes, he's way off the end of a particular kind of "crazy." But it can't have been a happy life that got him here.

[polly7]

238. I do too. Very sad. nt.

[randome]

226. See, kiddies, this is what marijuana does to you.

Kidding.
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[IcyPeas]

219. give him some friggen marijuana!!!!!! this would settle it peacefully

give him some pot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is that all it would take to stop this?

[Mendocino]

220. Weed and pizza

OY

[randome]

221. "I don't care about the movement anymore."

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[L. Coyote]

222. David complains he needs his marijuana, gotta agree with that observation.

Maybe he is having some regrets about the smoking rules in jail

[nolabear]

223. I wish more media was covering this. It's the natural end of the Tea Party thought process. Despair.

[avebury]

227. They won't even let me have my marijuana!

This guy is a total nut who is totally lost touch of reality. They keep trying to tell him that he could be a voice for the issues but who on earth would listen to someone who is clearly a total nut job? In reality, he cannot help their cause at all.

[flamingdem]

230. Give this man his weed, in the name of God

And some Doritos.

[IcyPeas]

235. seriously. they should.

[L. Coyote]

237. DUzy. I'll offer my services to the FBI as an Oregonian who can give away weed legally.

and a pizza with elephant tranquilizers.

[brooklynite]

231. If we're going to debate the Bible, isn't that why Franklin Graham is here?

[nolabear]

234. Graham is a real villain here in my opinion. If there was no media he'd never have come.

[ebayfool]

252. I think Fiore & Graham are at the surrender point. The youtube people are there by ...

the 'campers' choice. Victoria is the 18 yr old that was in the car when Lavoy was killed.

And I got a hunch that Fry isn't all about the religion. Or mebbe just when it is useful?

[SummerSnow]

236. The clock is ticking dude.The Feds are growing tired

[SummerSnow]

239. Who's the idiot with the flag?

[L. Coyote]

245. The live feed video on KGW is located at the roadblock where the press is waiting.

http://interactive.kgw.com/mobile/breaking-video-2.html

They are running the YouTube sound live and showing the scene at times, breaking away when something happens there, like Bundy's attorney talking.

[randome]

240. "Describe the room for me." Seriously? You say this to a paranoid, suicidal nutbag?

He'll think you're talking to the FBI!

Yep. He suspects them.
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[Brickbat]

241. I cackled when she said that. That didn't sound ANYTHING like someone trying to get info for a

sniper. And now he's suspicious.

[nolabear]

246. I didn't think of that. Asking him to sit up might have the same effect.

[polly7]

242. He doesn't care about the outside world anymore.

That's scary, his mind is trapped. Nothing they're saying seems to be resonating with him at all.

[SummerSnow]

243. Then she ask if he is standing up?

what is that?

[randome]

249. Amateurs.

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[valerief]

247. Seriously, are there any crazy and dangerous people who AREN'T religious? nt

[winstars]

248. Voting is not how we protect liberty... WTF??? Nutjobs

[randome]

251. Almost hilarious, isn't it? She's winging it, of course, but she is ill-equipped to fly.

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[avebury]

250. If Fry is not willing to do the time, he shouldn't have done the crime. nt

[SummerSnow]

253. Cue in the theme to 'Baretta'

[randome]

254. He's not a Christian, he's a Messianic Judaist?

I'm sure I heard that slightly wrong.
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[valerief]

260. I heard it, too. He's a Jews for Jesus guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism

[SummerSnow]

261. They have messianic Judaism temples here in NYC.

They straddle the line between Judaism and Christianity from my understanding.

[brooklynite]

255. ...and over the cliff we go...

They were playing Bible quotes at him, and now he says he's not a Christian...

[SummerSnow]

256. Too afraid to go to jail, to afraid to die. wtf

[LannyDeVaney]

259. Makes him pretty ill equipped to start a movement against a sovereign nation...

At this point they could probably just fire a blank into the air and he would collapse.

[ghostsinthemachine]

258. Oh boy he's losing it now. Seems as if he had made up his mind

to go out in a blaze of glory.......

[brooklynite]

262. "I'm making sure I'm not coming out alive"

[pinboy3niner]

264. They need to send him a pizza laced with soporifics. nt

[valerief]

269. Who'll volunteer to deliver it?

[pinboy3niner]

273. Grovelbot

[ghostsinthemachine]

265. Yep,mind is made up

time to take him out via tear gas and an assault.

[Brickbat]

266. He's swearing more now, too. This is getting out of hand.

[SummerSnow]

271. All he keeps saying,' your'e not addressing my concerns'.

Oh yeah that'll be a game changer.

[SummerSnow]

263. Did he just threaten the feds?

[brooklynite]

267. Maybe they should just wait until he falls asleep?

He sounds like he's running on fumes at this point...

[Ellipsis]

272. Adrenalin... I'd guess

[NutmegYankee]

274. I'm concerned he'll kill himself before he allows himself to sleep.

The guy is mentally ill and we should make an effort to get him help.

[Ellipsis]

279. He''l be fine just fine if they get him out...

[NutmegYankee]

283. It takes a skilled negotiator to talk down a mentally ill person.

And these amateurs are not doing it well.

[Ellipsis]

268. Time to flash bang this dude. He's suicidal.

[brooklynite]

270. "UFOs are real"...

The Government is suppressing techology

[Brickbat]

275. That's right, lady -- give an unacceptable ultimatum to a suicidal guy.

[L. Coyote]

276. ***** LIVE: #OregonStandoff Ending? - Cliven Bundy Jailed - #BundyTeaParty - Thread 2 *****

***** LIVE: #OregonStandoff Ending? - Cliven Bundy Jailed - #BundyTeaParty - Thread 2 *****

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027602014

[ghostsinthemachine]

277. He's the anti-Unibomber!

Man what a poor deluded fool. Man what a loonatick!

[brooklynite]

278. You know, at some point his cell phone is going to die.

[randome]

280. "I don't care what people think of me."

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[randome]

281. "I can't do anything more for you." WTF?

What a negotiator!
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[polly7]

284. Yeah ....... she's not all that helpful. nt.

[randome]

282. "Obama's a traitor."

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[Elwood P Dowd]

285. Syria was a democracy and a pretty good country?

It just weirder and weirder.

[boomer55]

286. nutbaggery to the Nth degree... wow.

[Elwood P Dowd]

290. Finally coming out now. (nt)

[jberryhill]

287. "THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO STOP CHEMICALLY MUTATING PEOPLE"

Well, okay, I think we can all agree with him on that.

[snooper2]

288. I heard him pull a trigger , dry shot, twice already

[randome]

289. There's a 2nd thread on this.

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[polly7]

291. I was holding my breath. So glad he's safe in custody. nt.

[seaotter]

292. Now toss his sorry ass in a windowless cell for many years.

[L. Coyote]

293. ***** LIVE: #OregonStandoff Ending? - Cliven Bundy Jailed - #BundyTeaParty - Thread 2 *****

***** LIVE: #OregonStandoff Ending? - Cliven Bundy Jailed - #BundyTeaParty - Thread 2 *****

[ghostsinthemachine]

294. Whew, thought that was going to go south

for a while. Now back to my regular programmed life....

[L. Coyote]

295. Seven vehicle caravan exiting the refuge on the live feed now. Standoff is over.

KGW News just said Fry was pissed off because they wouldn't let him have marijuana.