Michigan Senate Passes Bill Outlawing Oral and Anal Sex-

[MerryBlooms]

Violators Will Face 15 Years in Prison

Lansing, MI — During their session last week, the Michigan Senate passed a bill that effectively bans all forms of sodomy, anal, oral, gay and non-gay — making the acts punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

Surprisingly, Michigan is not alone in this archaic and oppressive legislation. Michigan, along with Idaho, Utah, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana, all have laws on the books making consensual oral and anal sex, illegal, between all individuals. Montana, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas, have only outlawed these acts if those engaged in them are gay.

The passage of this Bill is in spite of the U.S. Supreme Court’s 2003 ruling in Lawrence v. Texas declaring sodomy bans unconstitutional.

In an attempt to skirt the legal boundaries of the SCOTUS ruling, Michigan encompasses these so-called ‘sex crimes’ into the legislation on bestiality — as if the two are related in any way whatsoever.

“A person who commits the abominable and detestable crime against nature either with mankind or with any animal is guilty of a felony,” reads SB 219.

And, if the state catches you committing this ‘felony,’ you will face ‘not more than 15 years’ in prison.

Sex cops and/or cameras in the bedroom? How do the idiot legislators who pass these sort of draconian laws, expect or want them enforced? Shameful waste of state funds and time. Republicans are always screaming, "Smaller government!". Not. Keep a watch for some local Michigan republican/s sex scandals to surface soon. It's usually the biggest hypocrites that vote for this sort of shitty legislation.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/michigan-senate-passes-bill-outlawing-oral-anal-sex-violators-face-15-years-prison/

[Dont call me Shirley]

1. Poison minorities, check. Destroy minority schools, check. Sell off public assets, check. Take away

women's rights, check. Invade people's bedrooms, check. The GOP Agenda. Great job, Michigan...

[MerryBlooms]

8. Exactly. The Michigan republicans are following the national

playbook: Waste as much money as you can on frivolous bullshit; refuse to fund infrastructure; kill all low income subsidies; increase taxes on the poor; reduce taxes for the wealthy... I can't think of a single republican currently serving who I can say I respect.

[Dont call me Shirley]

12. Not one. Neither the Corporacrats.

[NV Whino]

2. You've got to be kidding me

Do these idiots have nothing better to do?

[MerryBlooms]

13. Apparently not.

If I had my way, every 'yay' vote would be banned from office.

[Floridanow]

50. So how will they catch "violators"?

Will they swab the mouths and bungholes of potential violators as they leave home in the morning?

[napi21]

54. I have to admit, that was the first thing that came to my mind too!

Are they now going to monitor your bedroom?

Isn't this something that USED TO BE law in many states, A VERY LONG TIME AGO?

What's with the guys you elected there?

OH, forget I asked. I do know what's going on. All the pubbies want to go back to those "GOOD OLD DAYS" don't they?

[NV Whino]

55. They'll infiltrate bedrooms with kitties and puppies

[RKP5637]

62. Watch out for Smart TVs, your gov. is watching you and taking notes! Knock knock, who's there, the

oral/anal patrol, lock them up!

[NV Whino]

73. It's okay. I've discovered my smart TV is pretty stupid.

[EllieBC]

80. I'm guessing this law will only come up in ugly divorce cases.

A spouse cheats and this law will be trotted out as a way to control support and custody.

[world wide wally]

3. Better question:

How do you people in Michigan allow these idiots to run your state?
Have they done away with elections?

[etherealtruth]

9. Gerrymandering

I do acknowledge it is embarrassing to be from Michigan .... but, keep in mind; we voted for Obama twice, both of our senators are Dems. All of my local, state (except the jack-ass guv) and federal reps are Democrats.

[etherealtruth]

4. It has become just plain embarrassing to be from this state ....

.... or toxic if you reside in Flint.

I can't imagine that a law like this would be constitutional (even with the current psychotic supreme court)

[MerryBlooms]

14. ((hug)) You folks are suffering.

[spanone]

5. these assholes think they're god's little army. fuck them. all of them.

[jberryhill]

37. Well that's why those assholes outlawed it!

[tblue37]

60. But be careful not to do it in a way that will get you 15 years! nt

[jwirr]

6. Will the SCOTUS allow that to stand? I cannot imagine it.

I think we finally truly have Orwell's 1984 cameras in the bedrooms.

[jwirr]

11. Good. No one has the right to legislate this kind of behavior.

Well, before some one comes after me - "as long as it is not with a child".

[Orrex]

65. Can't wait for the oral arguments

[jpak]

10. Long Live Big Brother

?1

[RKP5637]

57. Big Brother has a big hardon, no doubt, looking for anal/oral sex in all the bedrooms! Clearly TPTB

in Michigan are damn perverted and in need of some mental therapy.

[Floridanow]

51. Their dirty little minds work overtime. Eom

[madamesilverspurs]

17. Gee.

I, for one, can't wait to see the official uniform of their Sodomy Squad........

[MerryBlooms]

18. I suspect there will be swastika and pink dildos involved.

[Solly Mack]

19. Sick fucks.

[Hoppy]

20. Well, I guess that settles it. No more suckig pussy for me.

[fleur-de-lisa]

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[SpartanDem]

21. Misleading article

That statue is already on the books and as we know is no longer enforceable. That section was edited as part of an anti-animal abuse bill. So no new law is being passed, it's just doesn't remove the stuff about sodomy.

[jberryhill]

41. Are they having a problem with that in Michigan?

[Quayblue]

91. Thank you

For further explanation, everyone should view Senator David Knezek's FB page.

[hifiguy]

22. Re-passing a law that has already been struck down by the SCOTUS

does not make it any more constitutional, you hatracks. Stupid is as stupid does.

[gollygee]

23. They just want to make sure the electorate knows they're full of hate before the next election

Especially with gerrymandering, this will be popular in a lot of districts. It's an embarrassment to our state. One of many.

[RKP5637]

59. Yep, not just Michigan too, a lot of states are fucked up in so many ways. n/t

[Octafish]

24. Flint water is still poison.

Michigan GOP should be very proud.

[MerryBlooms]

26. I have no doubt they are proud.

[Octafish]

40. Don't get me wrong: Michigan GOP (and too many Mi DEMs) work for money.

The buffoons in Lansing all answer to someone higher up the food chain.

Which also explains how much greed they've managed to accomplish with term limits and all. For instance, they get to keep through their 401(k)s or whatever, their unused campaign chest.

About eight years back, a friend of mine's nephew was a GOP state congressman. His uncle asked him, "Too bad about term limits. What do you have to do with the contributions? Give them back?" He said his nephew turned to him and said, "No, Uncle. We keep it." My buddy said: "Isn't that against the law?" The "kid" said, "Uncle, we make the laws."

Har har. It is to laugh.

The laws against sex and nature are just sideshows to help avoid all the theft on behalf of the rich and powerful, in Michigan, particularly the DeVos and Koch interests.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/devos-michigan-labor-politics-gop

Swell people. Into the arts. And intel, like Booz Allen, and black ops, like scion Erik Prince of Blackwater.

[MerryBlooms]

43. rec. Good post.

[RKP5637]

61. Without sounding CT, maybe this is TPTB plan to destroy poorer humans in an inhumane manner.

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I'm not surprised at anything anymore. A lot of TPTB are mentally disturbed in this country.

[snagglepuss]

25. If hotels & motels in Windsor Canada play their cards right they'll become a boomtown.

[roamer65]

75. Low Canadian dollar and BJ's.

O' Canada!!!

[JonathanRackham]

27. What century are we living in?

[NCjack]

29. Could be a great opportunity to nail some state senators. /nt

[hoosierlib]

30. So they outlawed the fun stuff...yet another reason NOT to visit MI

This is so getting thrown out in court...

[RKP5637]

82. Yep, I'm adding MI to my list of states never to visit except as flyovers. n/t

[thereismore]

31. Now who is going to enforce/police this law? And how. nt

[liberal_at_heart]

32. They know they can't enforce it. They just want to put gays in their place and brag to their

fellow bigots that they can pass laws that protect their religious freedom.

[longship]

33. And whatever you do, don't say "vagina" on the floor of the state house!

Or you get censored!

It resulted in a live performance of "The Vagina Monologues" on the steps of the state capital in Lansing.

Reported here: http://www.eclectablog.com/2012/06/the-vagina-monologues-at-the-michigan-state-capitol-in-lansing-michigan-june-18-2012.html

The crowd was not small:

Yesterday, Monday, June 18, 2012, upwards of 5,000 women and men and children descended on the state Capitol in Lansing, Michigan to reclaim that place of power for women and their vaginas. After being told that uttering the word “vagina” was dirty and “lacked decorum”, Representative Lisa Brown and her colleague Barb Byrum were censored and banned from speaking.

Eve Ensler, the creator of The Vagina Monologues, worked with Senator Rebekah Warren and others to stage a reading of the groundbreaking and magnificent play on the steps of the Capitol (You can read my interview with Eve Ensler HERE.) But, what transpired there was more than just a theatrical event. It was an empowering event and a tranformative event for the state of Michigan. The thousands that gathered shared their anger and disgust and their refusal to continue being treated like children or second class citizens.

I spoke with Lori Lamerand, Board Chair of Planned Parenthood Advocates of Michigan. I told her how impressed I was that her group had gotten 400 people to the Capitol last Tuesday when there was a scheduled vote on the anti-woman, anti-choice omnibus package of bills. Describing the women, all dressed in pink, ringing the Capitol Rotunda and chanting, demanding to be heard and to be listened to, Lamerand said, “That day was the highlight of my career. It was so heartfelt and real.”

They did it again on Thursday, the day when the vote was rescheduled.

Here it is, Lisa Brown in the middle, one of the legislators censored for uttering the word "vagina" on the floor of the legislature. Here she is performing "The Vagina Monologues" on the steps of the state capital, the only appropriate response:


Fuck the Republicans in the Michigan legislature!

[sakabatou]

34. Aren't these kinds of laws unlawful?

[MerryBlooms]

36. They are, but it doesn't stop the republicans trying to skirt law and pass.

[Major Nikon]

52. Not unlawful, just unenforceable

[tblue37]

63. Unlawful, too, because they have been declared unconstitutional by the SCOTUS. nt

[Major Nikon]

64. That's what makes it unenforceable

However, states are free to pass whatever unenforceable laws they want.

[tblue37]

66. Sure, but they are legally irrelevant, "unlaws," as it were. nt

[jberryhill]

35. To be fair, it's only at the same time

It banned oral sex DURING anal sex.

I think that's common sense legislation we can all agree with.

[MerryBlooms]

38. .

[jberryhill]

39. Besides, it's tough with only two people

"We're gonna need a bigger bed"

[MerryBlooms]

44. Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women.

[RKP5637]

83. I need a pic please! LOL

[jberryhill]

84. Holding the camera for a selfie was too much....

...damn near threw my back out.

[RKP5637]

95. LOL!!!

[snooper2]

87. Well, it should be that- oral sex AFTER anal sex is banned- There are rules one is to follow

[CharlotteVale]

42. Only baby-makin' sex allowed!

[KentuckyWoman]

45. Actually i'm pretty sure

even that kind among married people of the opposite sex is bad, dirty and generally embarrassing. Seems like every time i turn around another pregnant newscaster or weather person is being slammed for appearing on air pregnant.

The people who pass laws like this, and the people who support them, are so screwed up in the head there is now dealing with them. Period.

[Floridanow]

56. Exactly. Eom

[Wounded Bear]

46. Funny thing about sex crimes in general....

often, we only have the word of the involved parties to come to rational conclusions. It becomes a he said, she said contest.

The real problem is that in sex cases in general, accusations can often do as much damage as convictions. And, since retractions and apologies are often many weeks to months later and relegated to the back pages of the paper, mini blurbs on the TV machine, much damage can be done with these laws in place. Having the laws kind of legitimizes the accusations, with or without proof.

[lindysalsagal]

47. Because small government.

Right.

[no_hypocrisy]

48. Anything to avoid dealing with the Flint Water Crisis . . . . . .

[Crunchy Frog]

49. What a relief to know that Michigan doesn't have any problems more serious

Than people doing naughty things in the bedroom. And here I had been worried about things like poisoned water.

[RKP5637]

53. FFS! What the F is wrong with these people! n/t

[Nevernose]

58. This bill should be the only "attack ad" Democrats need in Michigan

30 seconds s day reminding people that their elected representatives literally voted to ban blow jobs and butt stuff should swing the vote.

Even the "moral majority" likes getting blowjobs.

[olddots]

67. this raises the price on the porn they make and sell

the repukian turd maggots want a black market on everything because that is free market capitalism .

[JesterCS]

68. Ohio has this law, or used to

But most LEO'S around here say they've no way or will to enforce it

[TeamPooka]

69. Michigan Isn't For Lovers. nt

[roamer65]

70. It's an attempt to gut the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage.

You can bet dollars to doughnuts that it will only be gay couples that are charged under this travesty.

[YoungDemCA]

85. My thoughts exactly.

Because after all, God-fearing straight couples would never engage in anal or oral sex, right?

[Mendocino]

71. Wonder if the former

Michigan House reps, Gamrat and Courser, who got caught in an affair and used public funds to try to cover it up could be charged under this law?

[Sam_Fields]

72. When I was in the military 30 years ago mad ex's would turn in their military member partner

Then they governmnet would win the case.

[milestogo]

74. Don't they have any URGENT issues to worry about in the Michigan Senate?

With the crisis in Flint its unbelievable that they are focusing on regulating behavior between consenting adults.

[CoffeeCat]

76. This new law blows!

It also sucks!

And I intend to write a strongly worded letter, saying so!

[JPnoodleman]

77. Would it be uncouth to ask "What's stuck up their butt?" /nt

[INdemo]

78. Is this why Hillary didnt take Bill to Michigan with her?

[6chars]

79. so what's left?

[NaturalHigh]

86. So much for smaller government, I guess.

The Democratic party is light years from being perfect, but at least they aren't passing bills about private consensual acts.

[KamaAina]

88. Making sodomy punishable by a lengthy strecth in prison.

Ah, the irony.

[whatthehey]

89. Well bugger me that's a blow.

It also comes across as unconstitutional on its face.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

90. They can have my oral sex when they can pry it from my cold, dead fingers!

[DesMoinesDem]

92. This isn't true. You should edit your post to let people know.

Although I often get the impression that people on this site would rather be outraged than get the truth.

[CBGLuthier]

93. Road Trip!!!

Let's all go to Michigan and ..................

You know, one time, in Michigan, I blahhed a blah but I swear I did not get blahhed in the blahh.

Blow me, Michigan.

[struggle4progress]

94. "I'm so tired of seeing this disgusting stuff when I peep in my neighbors' windows at night!"

[Heeeeers Johnny]

96. There's a George Carlin routine somewhere in there.

Let me see if I understand this correctly...

If someone gets caught, and convicted for engaging in anal sex, these bozos want to send
them away to prison for 15 years.

Do any of these brainaics have any idea what goes on in there when the lights go out?

Bubba: So, what you in for?

Sodomite: Well, you see it's kind of embarrassing.

Bubba: No, that's okay, you can tell me, nothing is embarrassing in this place.

Sodomite: Well, it's like this; I got sentenced to 15 years for uhmmmm... me and my buddy were taking
turns fucking each other in the ass.

Bubba (with a big grin): Don't sweat it. I have a feeling you'll fit in just fine here.
Hey, guyz... we got a live one here!.