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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe New Wingnut False Equivalency: LaVoy Finicum = Michael Brown
Link to "Hands Up, Dont Execute"Darren Wilson. On the other hand, LaVoy Finicum was an unsympathetic figure (a right-wing, gun-owning good ol boy), and a potential threat, so he was fair game to be gunned down in the snow.
For the right, LaVoy Finicum was a sympathetic figure (a God-fearing family man), so he had Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights which were violated by the FBI. On the other hand, Michael Brown was an unsympathetic figure (a young, black thug), and a potential threat, so he was fair game to be gunned down in the street.
Both are blinded by their respective bigotries to the truth that rights are inherent to the individual, and are not based on group identity or cultural affinity.
Nobody should be gunned down in the road like a rabid dog, regardless of whether the individual is a pillar of his community or a hardened criminal, a philanthropic saint or an incorrigible misanthrope. Every individual has an inalienable right to life: a right not to be killed unless that individual is presenting an imminent threat to the life of someone else.
For the right, LaVoy Finicum was a sympathetic figure (a God-fearing family man), so he had Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights which were violated by the FBI. On the other hand, Michael Brown was an unsympathetic figure (a young, black thug), and a potential threat, so he was fair game to be gunned down in the street.
Both are blinded by their respective bigotries to the truth that rights are inherent to the individual, and are not based on group identity or cultural affinity.
Nobody should be gunned down in the road like a rabid dog, regardless of whether the individual is a pillar of his community or a hardened criminal, a philanthropic saint or an incorrigible misanthrope. Every individual has an inalienable right to life: a right not to be killed unless that individual is presenting an imminent threat to the life of someone else.
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The New Wingnut False Equivalency: LaVoy Finicum = Michael Brown (Original Post)
Algernon Moncrieff
Feb 2016
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Finicum often expressed a"we're willing to die here attitude",implying he would resist any attempted
Ford_Prefect
Feb 2016
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geomon666
(7,512 posts)1. This is such a huge pile of horseshit
that it is now oozing out of my computer monitor and onto my lap.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)2. Oh FFS!
Gman
(24,780 posts)3. I have been waiting for them to say
Hands up don't shoot.
KT2000
(20,581 posts)4. how convenient
to leave out the fact he was trying to make a getaway and almost ran over a LEO. Then reaching for his gun is not putting ones hands up.
This will be rewritten for decades and get more bizarre as time goes on until he is no longer considered by most to be an idiot but a martyr. At least they will try.
Ford_Prefect
(7,901 posts)5. Finicum often expressed a"we're willing to die here attitude",implying he would resist any attempted
arrest with deadly force. He reached for a weapon after they told him to stand still. No case at all. A known threat acting in a threatening manner, who had insisted he would rather die than go to jail. No Way was that hands up don't shoot.