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How can anyone look at those sweet, smiling faces and feel bigotry or fear? (Original Post) kpete Feb 2016 OP
Unfortunately..... daleanime Feb 2016 #1
children are everything. wonderful picture of all these American people. roguevalley Feb 2016 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #2
Perhaps atreides1 Feb 2016 #3
That's a beautiful photo malaise Feb 2016 #4
Have you ever seen another President do this in the oval office? Stellar Feb 2016 #5
Does this count? jberryhill Feb 2016 #10
ROFL! nt Stellar Feb 2016 #12
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahha malaise Feb 2016 #20
Harooooooooooooooooo!!!!! Initech Feb 2016 #40
Just what I was thinking. But Google didn't have the correct spelling. I like yours. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #43
I love that picture! B Calm Feb 2016 #50
And let's not forget this: forest444 Feb 2016 #57
Just adorable malaise Feb 2016 #19
Have you ever seen another President cry? Stellar Feb 2016 #23
You know the killing of those children and their teachers and adminstrators malaise Feb 2016 #25
hear, hear! nt Stellar Feb 2016 #30
Once that I can recall jberryhill Feb 2016 #28
He was crying?! Man, he sure cries ugly. nt. Stellar Feb 2016 #31
Looks like he's wearing Mendocino Feb 2016 #35
I thought he fell asleep face down on a walnut shell. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #44
+ 1... Stuart G Feb 2016 #7
Re: Feeling "fear." I don't recall any news reports of gangs of Muslim women and children. WinkyDink Feb 2016 #6
The assholes who feel that way feel the same way about the man in the foreground Orrex Feb 2016 #8
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #9
Ummm.. Where they "came from" is the U.S. jberryhill Feb 2016 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #14
"Send the anchor babies back too." You definitely clicked on the wrong link when you came to DU. pampango Feb 2016 #17
excuse me, kpete Feb 2016 #13
Your kidding right! newfie11 Feb 2016 #15
You can't help these people malaise Feb 2016 #21
"Send them back where they came from. I don't care what they claim might happen to them over there, pampango Feb 2016 #16
MIRT Mendocino Feb 2016 #27
The photos are of women and children oberliner Feb 2016 #18
It is when Muslim women and children are vilified and attacked. Rebkeh Feb 2016 #22
Bigotry and fear do not emanate from pictures of smiling women and children oberliner Feb 2016 #36
oh god. just enjoy the picture. it would probably surprise you how many people in this roguevalley Feb 2016 #39
It's a very cool picture oberliner Feb 2016 #42
I see three adult men clearly. Mendocino Feb 2016 #24
Illustration of what ? n/t TubbersUK Feb 2016 #26
Considering there are 4 men and 4 women in that photo, not really sure what your issue is uppityperson Feb 2016 #33
Different types of photos yield different types of reactions oberliner Feb 2016 #37
Any time you see pics of Obama with children, SheilaT Feb 2016 #29
Looking at pics of Pres. Obama with babies and children lowers blood pressure. redwitch Feb 2016 #32
I'm going to miss him Beaverhausen Feb 2016 #45
Because these are children..... BrainDrain Feb 2016 #34
What about this group of men? Bad Dog Feb 2016 #48
Quite funny! smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #53
Thank you. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #54
ahhh yes...... BrainDrain Feb 2016 #59
Which one? Bad Dog Feb 2016 #60
First I fell in love with the little boy with the book closest to the President.. Demoiselle Feb 2016 #41
Here's a smiling face to fear: tclambert Feb 2016 #46
that is his "another Bankruptcy in my businesses was just approved" smile mdbl Feb 2016 #47
How? By using collective guilt. Some men who attend their churches (mosques) do very bad pampango Feb 2016 #49
Those kids are cute!!! The Imam at that Mosque is a purveyor of hate speech against LGBT!!!! Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #51
Good post, important perspective. MH1 Feb 2016 #58
Could I get a link to that quote, please? nt el_bryanto Feb 2016 #62
A soulless Repub.... blackspade Feb 2016 #52
Well, nice thought, but the filth which was (predictably) brought out here closeupready Feb 2016 #55
Flourishes might be a bit of a stretch el_bryanto Feb 2016 #61
Yeah, that's fair. closeupready Feb 2016 #63
Amazing picture!! rwsanders Feb 2016 #56

Response to kpete (Original post)

malaise

(269,033 posts)
25. You know the killing of those children and their teachers and adminstrators
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:56 AM
Feb 2016

will go with me to the grave. Anyone who was on the side of the NRA after that is an enemy of our common humanity and basic decency.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
8. The assholes who feel that way feel the same way about the man in the foreground
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:49 AM
Feb 2016

Terrific picture!

Response to kpete (Original post)

Response to jberryhill (Reply #11)

pampango

(24,692 posts)
17. "Send the anchor babies back too." You definitely clicked on the wrong link when you came to DU.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:09 AM
Feb 2016

There are other - RW forums - where you will feel right at home.

kpete

(71,996 posts)
13. excuse me,
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:06 AM
Feb 2016

send them back?

They Are Americans.

OBAMA: You’re part of America, too,” Obama said, his volume rising as he said he was speaking in particular at that moment to young Muslim Americans. “You’re not Muslim or American, you’re Muslim and American. And don’t grow cynical.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/02/03/president-obamas-mosque-visit-will-spotlight-a-new-generation-of-muslim-americans/


peace for ALL,
kp

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
15. Your kidding right!
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:07 AM
Feb 2016

This is the most racist obnoxious post I've read in a long time.
These people did not start this mess in the Middle East, Bush DID.
All for oil.

Think about it! These people are Americans!!!

Because they dress differen has means nothing . You want the Amish gone too?

pampango

(24,692 posts)
16. "Send them back where they came from. I don't care what they claim might happen to them over there,
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:08 AM
Feb 2016

it's not my problem."

Donald, is that you? Does "send them back where they came from" apply to whites, African Americans, Hispanics, Asian-Americans?

... a whole bunch of mouths to feed, people who need to be housed, more people to put a burden on our schools and healthcare service, and we just can't afford it.

Again, just Muslims or those other groups as well. If you are Native American, I can see where you are coming from. If not, "THEM" is in the eye of the beholder.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
22. It is when Muslim women and children are vilified and attacked.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:29 AM
Feb 2016

Need an example?

Ahmed Mohamed, for starters. Even Malala dealt with a lot of hate... (how can anybody hate Malala????) How about refugees fleeing the very people some accuse them of being?

Mosques with Muslim women and children in them have been vandalized, some women have had their hijabs ripped off their heads. We've seen this before - it's always the same pattern.

Have a seat.

Unless you're joking ... I can't tell if you're serious, it's such an absurd comment to make.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
36. Bigotry and fear do not emanate from pictures of smiling women and children
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 04:17 PM
Feb 2016

There are other images that one could post that might generate such a reaction.

That would apply to any group of people regardless of race, ethnicity, or religion.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
39. oh god. just enjoy the picture. it would probably surprise you how many people in this
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 04:31 PM
Feb 2016

country wouldn't.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
33. Considering there are 4 men and 4 women in that photo, not really sure what your issue is
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 03:23 PM
Feb 2016

4 men, 4 women, 8 children seems like a "fair illustration" of family groupings.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
37. Different types of photos yield different types of reactions
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 04:18 PM
Feb 2016

Obviously a picture of smiling women and children displayed prominently in the foreground of the photo is not going to cause someone to be fearful.

There are other pictures that might have that effect - and this would apply to all sorts of people regardless of religion, race, ethnicity, etc.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
29. Any time you see pics of Obama with children,
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:49 PM
Feb 2016

they are looking at him with joyful glee. I have NEVER seen anyone else elicits such a wonderful response from people of any age. And it's every single time.

Plus, He's an absolute natural with babies and young children. He is perfectly at ease picking them up, can even comfort crying babies. Like this one:

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
32. Looking at pics of Pres. Obama with babies and children lowers blood pressure.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:55 PM
Feb 2016

He loves them and they can tell. It's really sweet.

 

BrainDrain

(244 posts)
34. Because these are children.....
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 03:38 PM
Feb 2016

and one of them in an all-American cub scout uniform, that's why. What kind of reaction would you get say, if all those children were replaced with all men between the ages of 18 and 30? Or perhaps a group of women in burkas?

What kind of reaction would you ask for then?

This is propaganda...pure and simple.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
54. Thank you.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:27 AM
Feb 2016

This one is by the same bloke. It looks like a Jihadi video, but it's not. I must admit I felt a bit uncomfortable at first, then there's a real twist and it's very funny.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017326945

 

BrainDrain

(244 posts)
59. ahhh yes......
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:07 PM
Feb 2016

how truly representative.

That is the part of the problem..."ohhh look (fill in appropriate picture here) and how could they hate/dislike whatever...blah blah blah.

Seriously, I bet I could find a great vid of blond haired, blue-eyed folks singing in Swahili...and WTF would that prove?

Nothing actually..just like your vid.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
41. First I fell in love with the little boy with the book closest to the President..
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:43 PM
Feb 2016

Then I fell in love with everybody else. What a beautiful picture!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
49. How? By using collective guilt. Some men who attend their churches (mosques) do very bad
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 07:54 AM
Feb 2016

things. Therefore, the people in this picture are guilty too.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
51. Those kids are cute!!! The Imam at that Mosque is a purveyor of hate speech against LGBT!!!!
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:25 AM
Feb 2016

Both things are true:

Imam Yaseen Shaikh:

“This whole subject of homosexuality in the public sphere…is no longer a religious issue, unfortunately, as much as we want to use the religious card and try to defeat this, now it’s become a politicized issue. Politicians are highly influenced by people who back them, and we find that these politicians who are calling for gay rights and marriage and supporting gay rights are lobbied and campaigned by gay activists, by gay groups. And they are throwing money at it left and right to gain some acceptance in society, to be considered normal people, to be treated normally. We have to counter the efforts that are taking place elsewhere. If our children are taught that homosexuality is okay, we have to teach them it’s not okay.”

Now kpete, that man clearly targets my family, myself and my community with denigrating speech he himself says is political and not spiritual. Do you really assert that LGBT people must not object to political attacks launched on us if the bigots have cute kids? Or if the bigots say 'God'?
I'd like to point out that the Bundy Gang has cute kids and says God all the time. Are they also super wonderful and not to be feared because of cute kids?
Would you post a photo of the adorable Sunday School Classes at Saddleback Church as a way to say 'do not fear Rick Warren'? How about the cute tots at Pat Robertson's place? Do those kids in some way mitigate Robertson or the adults there who are bigoted sexists? You seem to hold that thinking. I do not share that thinking.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
58. Good post, important perspective.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 03:31 PM
Feb 2016

If you took Hitler youth out of their uniforms, they were just cute kids.

And in any case it's not the kids, it's what they are being taught by the adults.

If these kids are in a religious environment that's teaching them hate, they can still be cute and even innocent, but that religious institution is a problem.

Still, I think it is appropriate for Obama to reach out to the Muslim community. Dialog will get us further than violence. But that doesn't mean we have to say everything in that picture is 100% wonderful.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
55. Well, nice thought, but the filth which was (predictably) brought out here
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:38 AM
Feb 2016

puts paid to the fact that racism flourishes even here on DU.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
61. Flourishes might be a bit of a stretch
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:24 PM
Feb 2016

It seems like a few people argued with it; and many more people disagreed with it - at least one person got banned.

Also in fairness, a number of DUers don't object to the race of those pictured, but to their religion.

Bryant

rwsanders

(2,605 posts)
56. Amazing picture!!
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:10 PM
Feb 2016

May disagree with policy and method, but no denying he is a great man. Proud of our prez.

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