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LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:33 AM Feb 2016

"Biggest Protest This Country Has Ever Seen" Against Both the TPP and TTIP

In this country, 'mainstream' media and 'centrist' politicians have lined up in support of the TPP and TTIP (Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership), opposing views are largely muted. In Berlin, people are taking to the streets:

And while the US population, which is far more perturbed by what Caitlyn Jenner will wear tomorrow than D.C.'s plans on the future of world trade, has been mute in its response to the passage of the first part of the trade treaty, the TPP - after all the MSM isn't there to tell it how to feel about it, aside to assure it that everything will be great even as millions of highly-paid jobs mysteriously become line cooks - other countries are standing up against globalist trade interests meant to serve a handful of corporations.

Case in point Germany, where today hundreds of thousands of people marched in Berlin in protest against the planned "free trade" deal between Europe and the United States which they say is anti-democratic and will lower food safety, labor and environmental standards.

TTIP critics fear that it would lead to worse safeguards in Europe, bringing down standards for consumer safety, food and health or labor rights down to those in America. European nations have stricter regulations for things like genetically modified foods or workers benefits than the US does. There is also discontent with the secretive nature of the negotiations, which prompts skeptics to assume the worst about the document they would eventually produce.

The organizers - an alliance of environmental groups, charities and opposition parties - claimed that 250,000 people were taking part in the rally against free trade deals with both the United States and Canada, far more than they had anticipated.

"This is the biggest protest that this country has seen for many, many years," Christoph Bautz, director of citizens' movement Campact told protesters in a speech.




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"Biggest Protest This Country Has Ever Seen" Against Both the TPP and TTIP (Original Post) LongTomH Feb 2016 OP
Oh, my mistake. tazkcmo Feb 2016 #1
Wasn't Berlin the band that did "take my breath away?" Will they be appearing? n/t mikehiggins Feb 2016 #6
Yeah, Right After They Started Sucking ProfessorGAC Feb 2016 #10
Yet Merkel and leaders of other European nations support it. Hoyt Feb 2016 #2
And other tazkcmo Feb 2016 #9
It seems that support for the TTIP is weakest in Germany, strongest in Scandanavia, eastern Europe pampango Feb 2016 #11
One of the most important reasons 2naSalit Feb 2016 #3
I have the same sick feeling, 2naSalit. hedda_foil Feb 2016 #4
Exactly. 2naSalit Feb 2016 #5
It is worth noting that both Trump and Cruz oppose both the TPP and TTIP, FWIW. pampango Feb 2016 #8
K&R JEB Feb 2016 #7

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
1. Oh, my mistake.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:38 AM
Feb 2016

I thought TTIP and TTP was a boy band on America's got talent and wanted to see what type of shenanigans those crazy kids were getting into. While I'm here, what's a "Berlin"?












sarcasm

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
10. Yeah, Right After They Started Sucking
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:15 AM
Feb 2016

When they were more a New Romantic synth band, they did much better music than that Dianne Warren dreck.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
11. It seems that support for the TTIP is weakest in Germany, strongest in Scandanavia, eastern Europe
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:24 AM
Feb 2016

and the UK/Ireland. It may be that Germany's economy dominates now. Germans may like things the way they are and don't want to take a chance on any change.

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http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/01/29/is-europe-on-board-for-a-new-trade-deal-with-the-u-s/ ..... http://www.borderlex.eu/eurobarometer-whos-ttip-eu/

2naSalit

(86,638 posts)
3. One of the most important reasons
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:40 AM
Feb 2016

there is so much at stake in this election cycle. I get the sense that this could be our last election, especially if the Rs win... and that means Congress too.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
4. I have the same sick feeling, 2naSalit.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:45 AM
Feb 2016

Both Cruz and Trump seem capable abrogating every tenet of the Constitution and law without batting an eye. Cruz, of course, would be a Dominionist Theocratic dictator while Trump is an out and out fascistic in the corporo-governmental sense. They are both highly dangerous men.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
8. It is worth noting that both Trump and Cruz oppose both the TPP and TTIP, FWIW.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:39 AM
Feb 2016

Perhaps a 'silver lining' to otherwise very dark 'clouds'. (Of course, both may only be saying it because it is what the base wants to hear.) Rubio is the one who will probably support both.

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