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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI have never heard of a mosquito borne disease being transmitted from
human to human during sex. Something is wrong about this Zika virus story,
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)from another human. All are transmitted by mosquitoes - hence mosquito-borne.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)I am not familiar with the other two.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I never, ever, ever want dengue again...
Faux pas
(14,681 posts)but Mother Nature is as mad as hell, ya know?
malaise
(269,054 posts)We've fugged up her planet
mankind has been a pretty crappy custodian. for sure
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Ba dum tss
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)Lochloosa
(16,066 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)TBF
(32,067 posts)like a capitalist. When a story takes off like this I also wonder what it is they are distracting from ...
StopTheNeoCons
(892 posts)released in Brazil, then you'll get the picture
malaise
(269,054 posts)I'm reading everything on this one because we have one case here
snooper2
(30,151 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)what is the virus named after? The Zika forest, in Africa
When was it first identified?
1947
Please, the mosquitoes were released to control Dengue, and the Zika is suspected to have made the leap due to... the damn world cup.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Thinking GM skeeters have anything to do with this is ignorant scaremongering.
The virus spread to South America from the Pacific islands, or so I heard on NPR.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)The local mosquitoes bit someone that was infected, and thus the joy began. They think it is most probable that it was a sports event.
People travel; disease travels.
Orrex
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CentralMass
(15,265 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)I'm sure the Cubans are working on a vaccine as well. They are usually ahead of most folks in our hemisphere
Warpy
(111,277 posts)although there are certainly diseases out there that are transmitted by means other than sex, like Ebola. Usually those diseases don't live in mosquito guts, which is why HIV has been less of a human catastrophe than it might have been.
Still, this is not a panic situation unless you are a woman who is pregnant or who plans to become so. Most people who are infected don't develop illness and early information suggests that people who have had it are immune to it. Unfortunately, the mild nature of the illness even when it's severe means we don't have a lot of data on this virus, even though it was first identified in 1947.
malaise
(269,054 posts)In reality it is way milder than Dengue, ChikV or Malaria. You're right re HIV.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)Why women?
In the heavily Catholic countries of Latin America, women do not have much control over family planning, other than refraining from engaging in sex. Why the responsibility on women alone?
Why shouldn't males shoulder the responsibility for using condoms or refraining from procreative sexual activity? Why not free condoms for everyone?
Unless something drastic happens within the Church, this is going to be a humanitarian disaster.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)next month. This is a 'better' rate of death than previous years if you can imagine that. The Church very aggressively forbids the use of condoms and opposes sexual and health education very strongly. Some Bishops tell their flocks that condoms actually spread or cause HIV.
An example country within Africa such as Uganda which is 44% Catholic has 7.2% rate of HIV infection. Just 13% of Ugandans report having used a condom even once. Uganda has one tenth the population of the US, but more than 10 times the deaths from AIDS, Uganda has over 60,000 deaths a year from HIV/AIDS. Of course those deceased adults are often parents, meaning Uganda has over 650,000 AIDS orphans of minor age. Some others have one living parent, often that parent is also sick.
The Church's attitude toward all of this can best be seen in Pope Francis' verbiage when he came to the US Congress. He said he was there to speak of 'concerns about threats to the family' but he did not mean the 60,000 dead, nor the 650,000 orphans in Uganda or the uncounted millions of Africans dead or orphaned by AIDS. Not at all, he is not concerned with that, what he sees at a threat to the family is people who want to get married and have a family.
That is the actual reality of Francis, his Church and how their dogmas relate to human health issues. Many people on DU eagerly claim that Francis' anti condom teachings don't really matter at all because Americans are smart and don't listen to everything the Pope or his Bishops tell them to do. They say it does not matter, because Americans know better. That's what they will say again, for this virus.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)I think that's a health emergency not a state of emergency
http://wgntv.com/2016/02/03/florida-governor-declares-zika-emergency/
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)and thus creating a much more severe problem. So, yeah, it's an emergency.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)when millions of young women start having babies who will require bazillions of dollars in state aid..for decades
Micro-cephaly is surely detectable in-utero at an early stage..
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I don't see that it is that surprising.
This is a mild illness; if it were not for the potential for severe birth defects, no one would be worrying about sexual transmission.
The reason there is all the hoopla about sexual transmission is that the public health authorities are trying to figure out who needs to be screened, and to provide that information to doctors ASAP.
It also changes the information that doctors will give to their patients, the questions they will ask, and the warnings they will give.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Hepatitis would only be occasionally transmitted by mosquitos, (in circs like fly-borne transmission) because hepatitis is destroyed in the mosquito gut. It is certainly theoretically possible, but such transmissions would be few and not of concern to public health.
I don't understand why you believe that human sexual viral transmission of a virus has anything to do with whether it is adapted to survive in an insect vector?
What's relevant to human person-to-person transmission is whether it goes systemic and can be found in the lymph system, and also how acute the virus is. If the illness is acute, by the time it has gone systemic few individuals are going to be up for sex, and until it has spread through the body, it wouldn't be present in seminal fluid.
It may be that zika is neuroinvasive now, somewhat like West Nile virus. If it were not for the sudden linking of fetal injury to this virus, we wouldn't know or care that it could be spread sexually. Zika was considered benign. They knew it was spreading rapidly in 2013 and 2014, but no one was excited about it.
The first known human-to-human sexual transmission of Zika in the US was I think in 2009. In that case, the man who returned and transmitted it to his wife reported swollen/aching joints. So it was systemic.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Chikungunya are only transmitted by the Aedes aegypti mosquitoes. We were told that ZickV was mosquito borne and clearly if someone was infected during sex, it is not only mosquito borne.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)until a few years ago either.
Bioperversity.
Oryx and Crake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oryx_and_Crake
Orrex
(63,216 posts)And then the mosquito probably uploads video of the whole thing, the filthy bugger.
1939
(1,683 posts)While the main cause of bubonic plague is getting bitten by an infected flea, you can also catch the plague by airborne transmission from a sick person or by skinning rodents infected with the plague.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Zika is a blood-borne pathogen (the blood transmitted from person to person via the mosquito). So it's not out of the realm of possibility that it could be passed through bodily fluids eventually. Hopefully there would be a limited time the person is contagious and it won't become too wide spread.