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Washington Post:If you see Abe Hagenston panhandling on a Detroit street corner and youre short on cash, the homeless entrepreneur will be happy to accommodate you.
I take Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Hagenston told CBS affiliate WWJ-TV. Im the only homeless guy in America who can take a credit card. Its all done safely and securely through square.com.
Hagenston, a decade-long veteran of the streets who calls himself Honest Abe, says being homeless is my business. Like many small businesses, he accepts cards with a Square Reader attached to his cellphone, turning his hand-held device into a mobile cash register.
The device costs about $10 and charges vendors a 2.75 percent fee per transaction.
NowSam
(1,252 posts)All the administrative work he has to do... Not even kidding. So...how is this person different than some 1% taking money while golfing? Oh yeah. He's homeless and getting .00000000000000000% of the amounts sucked away by the greediest and most fortunate.
His service? He reminds the rest of us that have a home that there but for the grace of God go we.
FDR would have put the man to work rebuilding the infrastructure. I have a feeling that we can do that again. There is so much that can be done to improve our society. Roads, Bridges, Removal of old Telephone poles and wires as new tech roles in. Solar for all rooftops...Cleaning the streets, painting away the graffiti. Imagine if we embraced these ideas and treated people with dignity and respect.
TipTok
(2,474 posts)He's got a solid source of income as it stands.
yodermon
(6,143 posts)TipTok
(2,474 posts)A cursory google shows a low end of a few dollars up to several hundred per day.
You also have to take into account the fact that the money they currently earn is gained by standing as opposed to the manual labor that a jobs program would entail.
Effort expended vs profit gained is a calculation that everyone, including beggars, takes into account.
haele
(12,660 posts)And it's hard work, between environmental exposure and the constant moving around for hours on end.
The two panhandlers I'm acquainted with (I live in "the hood", and these two hang out by a parking lot exit where there's a couple drive through places) maybe make $50 a day on a good day - and they have to be wandering around for 10/12 hours to different spots to beg, because if they're in one place for more than an hour, they are told to move on or get arrested.
These two are part of a loose confederation of about ten different homeless/panhandlers that I've seen hang around in pairs for their personal security and camp together in the canyons. The big shelters are all downtown, about ten miles away - across a freeway and over two hills. If they don't get in line before 3pm, they don't get in to the better ones where their stuff doesn't get stolen.
One uses the local VFW as his mailing address to get his VA disability check and personal mail for the others.
Now, from what I've gathered talking to them, the average daily take for a panhandler is between $15 and $20 in change plus whatever food and drink people give them. More if one is obviously disabled (one of the group above is missing half his leg), but not that much more. Certainly not enough for a hotel room for a night.
So, occasionally I've seen them get together after dark in that parking lot later at night when I'm running errands; it looks like they've pooled their takings, and maybe buy a twelve-pack or bottle of distilled spirit along with various dollar menu items for dinner. If I'm going to one of the stores (Big Lots and a local drug store are there) in that strip mall, I'll usually swing near and drop another couple dollars on my way out, just because that's such a privileged, glamorous life they're living, and they obviously don't need any more...
For those who might complain that I should hire them if I'm so concerned - frankly, there's not enough unskilled work around my house that requires me to go out and hire a handyman. I can't afford to pay someone $50 (my minimum to hire someone for an hour - and Jack's minimum to accept work the days he's actually capable of doing "will work for..." just to take someone off his/her corner forty minutes out of his/her way do the 5 minutes worth of light yard work a week that I can do myself.
Haele
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)What fresh hell is this?!
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)aggressive panhandlers in jail.
Dallas PD just started a new program. Just arrest them, put then in same holding area as Public Intoxication. Have not heard yet what they then intend to do.....
But hey if they all had this maybe they would not appear to be aggressive, just tech savvy????
http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/dallas-is-probably-screwed-if-it-gets-sued-over-new-panhandling-crackdown
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Not saying that everyone that gives has guilt, but that for some it allows them to atone for their sins.
Initech
(100,081 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Especially one who calls him "Honest Abe". There is the old saying, if someone calls themselves honest, then they aren't.