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hatrack

(59,587 posts)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 09:24 AM Jan 2016

Bush "Doubts" Sea Level Rise, Admits That He'd Move If He Had To; Invokes Garage-Man To Save Us

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Bush, once governor of Florida, has said he supports federal government support for “basic research” into low-carbon energy but, like Rubio, places his faith in the free market to deal with rising temperatures and the extreme weather events, drought and sea level rise they bring.

“What we shouldn’t try to do is pick winners and losers through the federal government,” he said at a gathering in New Hampshire on Saturday, in a newly emerged video.

“The market will work faster. There’s someone in a garage somewhere, parochially I hope it’s in Miami, that’s going to have a clue, to have an answer to this. There are people well-intended on climate change but they need to be careful to not paint the apocalypse. Because we are not there. But we should be adapting.”

Bush said he doubted sea level predictions for south Florida but, if they did come true, he has told his wife that they should move house.

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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/29/jeb-bush-marco-rubio-climate-change-garage?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Bush "Doubts" Sea Level Rise, Admits That He'd Move If He Had To; Invokes Garage-Man To Save Us (Original Post) hatrack Jan 2016 OP
Dumb people like Bush-will be the down fall of the US. riversedge Jan 2016 #1
Even if the guy in the garage comes up with the answer CanonRay Jan 2016 #2
And if they did come up with a solution, like tabletop fusion power n2doc Jan 2016 #10
Unless you can make a gun out of it. CanonRay Jan 2016 #16
This fuckhead is like a microcosm of why humans will be extinct by 2300 frizzled Jan 2016 #3
Well Miami did have an answer for this awhile ago. geomon666 Jan 2016 #4
"The market will work faster" ShrimpPoboy Jan 2016 #5
That's the prototypical right wing answer to every problem. geomon666 Jan 2016 #6
Well, it's certainly easier than thinking . . . . hatrack Jan 2016 #8
See, I'll never understand that. geomon666 Jan 2016 #18
Barb really did give birth to a box of rocks tavernier Jan 2016 #7
jeb probably wasn't as exposed to first trimester chemicals like Gin & ranch clearing round-up. Sunlei Jan 2016 #12
I had a good friend, a liberal, tell me Tthat she thought JEB! was pretty smart ... GeorgeGist Jan 2016 #9
can count on it sea level is a huge consideration on location of their personal mansions. Sunlei Jan 2016 #11
Disposable vacation homes... hunter Jan 2016 #13
yes, I remember katrina. I lived in houston, texas that hurricane. Sunlei Jan 2016 #14
The free market has not once been ahead of the curve. DirkGently Jan 2016 #15
I think Jeb? is waiting for Florida Man to save the country and his candidacy!! madinmaryland Jan 2016 #17

CanonRay

(14,103 posts)
2. Even if the guy in the garage comes up with the answer
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 09:32 AM
Jan 2016

the Republicans won't believe him because it's science.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
10. And if they did come up with a solution, like tabletop fusion power
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jan 2016

The GOP would be the first to ban it.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
4. Well Miami did have an answer for this awhile ago.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 09:47 AM
Jan 2016

That was to split the state in half so we could solve our own goddamn problems because people like you are so fucking useless that today we still can't get a single fucking thing done and now it's too late to really do anything about it.

ShrimpPoboy

(301 posts)
5. "The market will work faster"
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 10:08 AM
Jan 2016

The financial incentives to do something about climate change don't really exist yet and won't until it's too late. What a stupid, jingoistic response.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
6. That's the prototypical right wing answer to every problem.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jan 2016

"Somebody somewhere is going to solve the problem so I don't have to. What a great visionary leader I am."

Crock of shit.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
8. Well, it's certainly easier than thinking . . . .
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jan 2016

And speaking of thinking (or lack thereof), how about this National Journal article?

It's all about how disappointed environmentally-minded GOP donors are with this year's crop of candidates.

Really?

Really?? What did they think was going to happen?

Re­pub­lic­an donor Andy Sabin had a great seat on the floor for Thursday’s GOP pres­id­en­tial de­bate and found him­self in­creas­ingly im­pressed with the way Ted Cruz answered some ques­tions. But over­all, Sabin left frus­trated with a lack of dis­cus­sion of his pet top­ics: en­ergy and cli­mate change. “Zero. None. It’s a non­is­sue,” Sabin said. Just an­oth­er lonely night in the life of a green GOP donor.

Sabin, pres­id­ent of the New York-based re­fin­ing com­pany Sabin Met­al Cor­por­a­tion, may seem like a para­dox. He’s giv­en to Karl Rove’s Cross­roads USA PAC and the state Re­pub­lic­an Party, but also last year gave $3.5 mil­lion to Columbia Uni­versity’s school of cli­mate-change law. He’s vowed to try to get the party to fight cli­mate change, even as many stand­ard-bear­ers on the Right deny that it is hap­pen­ing.

Even though the party on the whole hasn’t em­braced any cli­mate-change ac­tion, there are a hand­ful of donors try­ing to get the GOP on board. North Car­o­lina busi­ness­man Jay Fa­sion, for ex­ample, got plenty of press over the sum­mer (in­clud­ing in Na­tion­al Journ­al), for an­noun­cing a $10 mil­lion 501(c)(4) polit­ic­al ac­tion group and a $165 mil­lion found­a­tion called ClearPath to back Re­pub­lic­an can­did­ates who want to work on clean en­ergy.

So far in the pres­id­en­tial race, that money hasn’t made much of a dent—and now donors are left fig­ur­ing out what’s next.

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http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/355926/environmentalist-gop-donors-are-losing-hope

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
18. See, I'll never understand that.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jan 2016

Voting (and in the above case, donating) against your own best interests and against the best interests of every living creature on the planet. If you're that environmentally conscious, why in the every loving fuck of it all would you ever vote or donate to a republican? Especially these days.

It makes no sense.

tavernier

(12,392 posts)
7. Barb really did give birth to a box of rocks
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jan 2016

didn't she, each dumber than the next.

No wonder she didn't want Jeb! to run.

GeorgeGist

(25,321 posts)
9. I had a good friend, a liberal, tell me Tthat she thought JEB! was pretty smart ...
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jan 2016

I just shook my head.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
11. can count on it sea level is a huge consideration on location of their personal mansions.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jan 2016

vacation homes not so much, they're fully insured.

hunter

(38,316 posts)
13. Disposable vacation homes...
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jan 2016

... disposable people. Government subsidies for the most affluent, armed response against everyone else.

Remember George W. Bush and hurricane Katrina?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. yes, I remember katrina. I lived in houston, texas that hurricane.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jan 2016

'homeless people' refugees were all over Houston, stuck in their cars, out of gas, no money, no help. lots of them kids, elderly people, pets it was was hot for days. electric was out here for about 3 weeks but it could have been so much worse for my family.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
15. The free market has not once been ahead of the curve.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:48 PM
Jan 2016

The free market cares about the environment exactly 0%. Exxon started to raise the alarm about global warming in the 1970s, but buried its own research because it realized it would rather make money right up until disaster struck.

The free market did nothing about smog until the government intervened.

Nothing about the ozone layer until government intervened.

Child labor. Egret feathers. Seatbelts and airbags. Slavery.

The free market takes action to put ethics, human health, the environment, or long-term thinking of any kind ahead of immediate profits approximately NEVER.
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