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The militias are enraged and believe the FBI ambushed militias. And you wonder if they are going to war against federal authorities. The aftermath of the standoff seems to make them more determined to resist. They want revenge. So what would they want to do?
Ranchers still want free access to federal lands for grazing. What a mess.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)@#$% those guys. Let them have free federal access to joining Finicum face up in the snow.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)safeinOhio
(32,688 posts)guaranteed to them in the Constitution. They'll get there day in court to prove it and there ain't no way they'll go to jail.........it'll be an institution for the criminally insane.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)They're good at that, not much else.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)I mean, isn't that their normal state?
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Guy who claims they'll never take him alive stands in front of the cops and sticks his hand in a pocket that just happens to have a loaded gun in it. What were the police supposed to do, line up shoulder-to-shoulder so the militia guy would have an easier time shooting them?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)it looked like he damn near ran over an officer. The officer looked like he dived out of the way. That's a pretty clear sign that he had violence in mind.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)I don't buy it.
I live three blocks from my office, so I walk to work in all kinds of weather. There are two large parking lots between my work and my house. When it's slick or snowy, I stick my arms straight out to the sides so I don't fall on my ass.
You will notice there was snow on the ground in the place where Finicum ran off the road...he MAY have been trying to go around the cops and get back on the road, and got bogged down in the snow. He got out of the truck and immediately stuck his arms straight out...just like I do when I walk across the county's parking lot when ice is on it.
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)He had the modicum of decency to jump out and move away from the vehicle. And he did have his hands up before reaching for the pocket, twice, before he got the desired reaction. Everyone else involved got safely taken into custody except the one who was on record saying he would not submit to arrest.
Bad Thoughts
(2,524 posts)Hands up is not the first thing a cop would say. They would tell the persons or people to stop themselves: immobilizing the people at the scene is not only the first thing they would do, it would be the precursor to handcuffing.
Finicum never stopped. He was constantly in motion, stepping through the snow, twisting around, shifting his weight, reaching inside his clothes. The fact that he had his hands raised barely to shoulder level for maybe half a second is completely overshadowed by his unwillingness to remain still, the cops' probable first command to him.
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)Oneironaut
(5,500 posts)I don't wonder if they're "going to war." I'm absolutely sure that they don't have the balls to. They want revenge for sure - They want someone else to get revenge for them while they sit on their butts. They're all chickenhawks.