Last of the occupiers 'hoping for a miracle'

[struggle4progress]

By Molly Young | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on January 30, 2016 at 3:57 PM
updated January 30, 2016 at 7:27 PM

... the four remaining holdouts ... huddled around a .. fire .. and waited for divine intervention.

That's what Sean Anderson told his hometown sheriff, who called from Idaho County, Idaho, to ask if he could help ...

"We're always armed," the only woman at the refuge said ...

... Sean Anderson .. faces an outstanding bench warrant in an unrelated case.

"And now I'm looking at going to prison for exercising my rights" ...

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/oregon_standoff_last_of_the_oc.html

[Lucinda]

1. I was wondering how this was going and hadn't checked yet

Thanks for the link!

[struggle4progress]

4. We seem to be down to the last four and looniest of the loonie tunes:

David Fry, the Anderson couple, and Jeff Banta

Fry is an ISIS-supporter and Hitler-admirer

Sean Anderson already has several misdemeanor convictions and is currently wanted on a Wisconsin bench warrant, which probably means the Andersons' recent relocation from Wisconsin to Idaho was to avoid Sean's arrest for skipping a Wisconsin court date

Since Sean had been cheerfully talking about killing federal officials, the prosecutors probably figure he's dangerous and a non-bailable flight risk, given that he's already skipped a Wisconsin appearance

Sean says everybody suddenly left the refuge without telling them. David seems never to have gotten along with most of the folk there and was suddenly put out of the car by a group who then drove out of the refuge and surrendered to authorities

Apparently three of the four are currently free to leave but have been told Sean will be arrested so have decided to demand "pardons" for all four as a condition of leaving. David, at the same time, admits this won't happen. Sean says his rights are being violated

[Lucinda]

7. I was watching one of their live feeds the night Bundy was picked up

but I've been sidetracked since then. What kind of a creep do you have to be to let your wife and other people end up in danger or under eventual charges rather than just step up and do what's right.

[struggle4progress]

2. Four holdouts want charge dropped for one to end occupation

By Les Zaitz | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on January 28, 2016 at 5:20 PM
updated January 28, 2016 at 9:45 PM

... court records show Anderson has an extensive history of criminal convictions in Wisconsin.

He has an outstanding bench warrant related to an August 2014 arrest. Anderson was charged with resisting an officer, possession of THC and possession of drug paraphernalia, all misdemeanors.

Wisconsin court records show Anderson was convicted of misdemeanor disorderly conduct in 1998, 2008 and 2009. He was convicted of criminal trespassing in 2002 ...

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/five_holdouts_want_charge_drop.html

[saltpoint]

3. They're holding out, hoping for "divine

intervention."

What specifically are they hoping God will do? Send more snacks?

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Well the eagle flew over ten in a bird refuge

[saltpoint]

8. There it is. I hope these folks

live a more...thoughtful life than they've lived so far.

[struggle4progress]

6. Dunno. Maybe they're awaiting a secret sign of favor, like a flock of geese flying overhead

or a sighting of a bald eagle. Sean seems to have had some secret revelation that police in Burns are going house-to-house without warrants, knocking down doors in their search for conspirators, so maybe he's hoping for an alternate vision

[Wellstone ruled]

9. The Guy is a total waca-doddle.

Door to door,you just can not make this stuff up,and again he just did. The Guy is one major loser.

[L. Coyote]

12. meanwhile, Mom and Dad are watching. Poor folks.

[Wellstone ruled]

23. Appears the end is in sight.

Finally the Feds moved to Plumb the Phones and Internet. Believe that takes Court Orders to facilitate as well as serving notice on who ever the Carrier of service might be.

Sean Anderson is not a very nice guy. History of violence is extensive and knowing the Wisconsin Law Enforcement Community,if he taken alive,he will spend 10-20 at Wawpun State and his next job will be in the License Plate Print shop. Just banging them out.

[saltpoint]

10. I keep wanting this to be a film by

David Lynch, but there's no There there.

It would just be 2 hours of a bunch of heavily armed morons at a bird sanctuary.

[juxtaposed]

11. The thing i find sad is that these ppl are just a bunch of misfits

they were brought into something by outside forces, aka alex jones types. and here we are killing one of them and waiting to maybe kill more? I wish they will just walk out and not let the b/s pseudo patriot crap to go on.

[MH1]

17. I almost feel the same, but the one that was killed,

was not killed by "we" but by himself. If not by intention (although his previous statements suggest it was), then by his own flat-out stupidity.

I think there's a reasonable area for discussion as to how LEO's can subdue and arrest an armed suicidal maniac without killing the guy. But to say "we killed him" is unfair, I think. The dumbass had many opportunities to act in a way that would have resulted in his not being killed. He chose to take an action almost 100% guaranteed to end in his death.

I do agree with your main sentiment that "these people are just a bunch of misfits that were brought into something by outside forces". I'll admit I haven't subjected myself to very much of their rantings directly, but what I have seen and heard, nearly all of them are at least a brick or two short of a full load. It's sad.

That sad, our prisons are full of people who got there by generally similar reasons. Can't figure out how to successfully deal with life by acceptable legal means, get sucked in by some deviant group and commit crimes. You can't just let them walk once they've committed serious crimes. But there are so many sad stories of how they got there.

[Downwinder]

13. Waiting for a comet?

[safeinOhio]

14. These guys are Constitutional experts.

All they have to do is give up and go to court. Hell they know the Constitution so well, they won't even need a lawyer. Just get up there and read the damn thing to the court and jury and how the hell can they not win their case? Besides, they have God on their side. Can't be scared with God and George Washington on your side.

or they are all fucking idiots with guns.

[UTUSN]

24. "Constitutional experts" - bwah-HAH!1 Yip, the miracle would be if they got some sense!1 n/t

[jmowreader]

15. I have had it with sovereign citizens claiming they are "exercising their rights"

"Exercising my rights" is sovereignese for "I will do anything I damn well please and you better not stop me."

[MH1]

18. "sovereign citizen" is just a fancy name for anarchist.

And I don't mean the "anarchists" that sometimes seem to have cachet among liberals (misguidedly even then, in my opinion). I mean real, serious, ant-government, period! anarchists.

[jmowreader]

22. Their biggest "success" has been demonizing the police

The cops weren't shooting first and asking questions afterward until Jerry and Joe Kane decided to blow away two cops during a traffic stop outside West Memphis, Arkansas.

[Vinca]

16. Odd, I don't recall having a right to break into a federal building and set up camp.

[struggle4progress]

20. It's implicit in the Tenth Amendment!

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people

[wordpix]

19. Anderson is so stupid he thinks his rights include taking over national lands

They're national b/c we all own them, buddy, and not just you and your little group of drunks and "shining stars." Your 15 mins. are nearly over.

[uppityperson]

21. I guess their god didn't send them that 100 thousand people?

Well, they do find seeing an eagle at a bird refuge as a sign, so you never know.

[Drahthaardogs]

25. The right to assemble

now includes armed take over of federal property??????