Would you be micro chipped?

[leftyladyfrommo]

I can't believe people are actually having this discussion.

What I see is a government - or other agencies - able to know where every single person is at any time. And that scares the beejeesus out of me.

This whole "everything is on the internet" thing scares me. This week the news was all about the "flame" virus that just sucks up information.

We are getting way too close to Big Brother for my taste.

[2on2u]

1. Will it help me get reelected?? I kid of course.... the only chips I need

come in a foil bag and smell of Barkham Blue.

[Speck Tater]

2. No Way!

I'll go live in a tent in a remote forest before submitting to that.

[RebelOne]

47. Same here. No Way! n/t

[ProdigalJunkMail]

3. there is one situation we are considering chipping

or at least applying a bracelet. my grandmother on Mom's side is 98 and is showing the signs of dementia and has wandered away from the home she lives in...not far, but far enough to be scary. she even likes the idea. when i get old and start losing it (who's to say i haven't already) i would probably like one....

sP

[FarCenter]

28. What you need is a GPS tracker

So long as grandmother is outside, you can locate her via the tracker.

You might be able to use a cell phone, so long as she keeps it on and you have a tracking app. A cellphone also gives her 911 calling ability.

http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=617650011

[ProdigalJunkMail]

30. asking a person suffering from dementia

to remember to carry something around is not really an option. during her solid and lucid moments i would feel good about it...however those are coming farther and farther apart. we need (she needs) something implanted or attached in such a way that she cannot remove it. heck, on of the ladies in this home let herself out of the home in broad daylight without a stitch of clothing on. she was discovered missing about 5 minutes into the excursion...but still...

sP

[FarCenter]

39. I don't know of any implantable trackers

The antenna, GPS receiver, radio communications link, and the battery all make these fairly large.

You can't expect the elderly to be turned in to the nearest vet or animal shelter to be scanned for a chip.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

43. Well, that may be where we're headed

but for now...we have a medic alert on her and are seriously thinking of an ankle-bracelet like they put on the folks that are under house arrest but I don't really know how that tech works...

sP

[dixiegrrrrl]

31. A nursing home solved that problem

by putting up a "bus Stop" sign outside the front door.
They report that the residents with dementia seem to recall what a bus stop is, and stand there, waiting for a non-existent bus.
Maybe something along those lines for where you mother is?

[ZombieHorde]

37. Very clever. nt

[ProdigalJunkMail]

44. that's a neat idea...

i will ask if they have thought about anything like that.

thank you!

sP

[RC]

53. Brilliant idea!

[meow2u3]

4. Absolutely not!

If someone forced a microchip in me, I'd rip it right out!

[Aerows]

5. Not just no

but HELL no.

[Generic Brad]

6. They don't need a microchip to track you

They just need to track the cell phones & electronic devices that use wi-fi or 4G that we are convinced we cannot live without. We may not be chipped, but most of us voluntarily carry around devices that are. Mission accomplished and we were none the wiser.

[Quantess]

7. It will begin with people who have a valid reason to be microchipped...

such as small children and seniors with dementia. Then people with disabilities and mental patients, "for their own good", you understand. Next, it will be inmates, who will have no choice.

But getting the rest of us microchipped will be a harder task. It will be hyped up as a good thing, so that as many people voluntarily submit as possible. There will probably be sanctions for rebels who refuse to be microchipped, such as a lousy credit score. I am sure this will be a requirement of the future.

[baldguy]

11. Offer them a free cell phone, or discounts at Walmart - there'll be no problem.

[crunch60]

49. That's what they did with Norplant. Offered financial incentives, $500.00 to have this device

implanted. Because poor communities were targeted, many women accepted this offer. So was this a choice, or done out of need? The removal of these implants after five years, was another issue.

snip;
Providing Subsidies and Incentives for Norplant, Sterilization and Other Contraception: Allowing Economic Theory to Inform Ethical Analysis

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1748-720X.2003.tb00099.x/abstract

[Tom Ripley]

18. That is exactly how it will happen

[Quantess]

23. Most of us will not be forced to get it, except inmates or parolees

We will not see people getting held down against their will, because that would be un-American. But, life will be made inconvenient for those who are not microchipped. That is what I think will happen.

[coalition_unwilling]

20. LMAO at "a lousy credit score" - Oh, brave new world! - n/t

[rhett o rick]

54. People already are being micro-chiped voluntarily.

A few years ago I read about clubs in Spain using micro-chips for identification and credit charges. "Get Bank of America's chip and never worry about losing your credit card again." How about for identification for security purposes. "Save me from the tarrists........give me a chip."

Tell people they need one to fly on an airoplane or go on rides at Disneyland.

[Life Long Dem]

8. Not a chance

I'm paranoid enough. I believe the Government can listen in on anyone's conversation as it is, even if your just reading to yourself, they can hear you (MKULTRA). I believe there is Satellite technology that they can see through walls wherever you are - similar to airport scanners) unless in a cave deep into the earth.

A good movie to watch. Enemy of the State.

[ChazII]

9. Hell no.

But as another poster stated we already have ways that we are being tracked.

[brewens]

10. Hell no! I'm still pissed about having to give up my fingerprints to get

a tribal gaming license. Then I never even went to work for them. If I hadn't done that, my prints would still not be on record.

Sam with DNA samples. If my DNA happens to be at the scene of a serious crime, the cops won't need to talk to me because I won't be the guy they are looking for.

I'm one that believes that theoretically, it should be possible to live your entire life without ever once talking to a cop on duty. It's unlikely that you would never get pulled over legitimately driving, never need to report a crime or give a statement, but someone might make it.

Bullshit like DUI checkpoints and tracking our every move makes it more likely you could get screwed. If you didn't do it, you don't want the cops to be able to place you at the scene of a crime. No way.

[JitterbugPerfume]

12. if they really wanted to do it

would we even know it was done?

[Life Long Dem]

14. They would need to inplant it which means touching you

Anybody touches me, I notice.

[coalition_unwilling]

22. That's what you think, but they also planted that

thought at the same time they planted the chip.

Sorry 'bout that.

[rug]

13. I prefer cremation.

[randome]

15. Why ARE we having this discussion?

Was there an article or something that set you off? A link would be cool.

We are getting closer to the mind/body/machine interface -if humanity can keep itself from extinction. Microchips that serve a legitimate purpose would be fine with me. Such as to regulate blood flow, detect early stages of cancer, etc.

Some people seem to think the body is sacrosanct. It isn't. Our bodies are whatever we want to do with them.

[Life Long Dem]

17. I hear that, since they can already track you by cell phone.

And put GPS devices on your vehicle. Then you can ask, what do you have to hide anyway? I myself have nothing to hide, but still want my privacy.

[randome]

19. I want my privacy, too.

So if there is a legitimate reason for a microchip to be inserted into me -and I'm relatively assured it isn't going to do anything nefarious at somebody else's behest- I'd have no problem with it.

[Life Long Dem]

24. As long as it doesn't get into the wrong hands...

where anyone and everyone can tune into this to use it against you.

[randome]

25. Unless I want to 'like' my friends with the microchip inserted into me.

That would save a lot of trouble dealing with keyboards, a mouse, hand gestures, etc.

[Life Long Dem]

29. And the Wiki guy will be the first to hack into you.

[crunch60]

52. How about the Smart Meter's that were installed in thousands of homes, don't they have

surveillance capabilities? I wouldn't let them install it at my residence. Also important to question the health related issues, which was my biggest concern. Just cutting the odds wherever I can.

[HopeHoops]

16. No fucking way. RFID is evil.

[southernyankeebelle]

21. Not on my body. That is the last thing I want to keep private.

[randome]

26. So what's the first thing?

Just kidding, just kidding.

[southernyankeebelle]

27. You tell me and I will tell you LOL

[leeroysphitz]

32. The real question is HAVE I been microchiped?

[Life Long Dem]

34. If your that paranoid, a CT scan would tell you.

MRI scans and metal objects are a no no.

[leeroysphitz]

35. I'm paranoid but am I paranoid ENOUGH?

[jberryhill]

33. Not if you can't say "please"

Didn't your parents teach you manners?

[Arkansas Granny]

36. no, No, NO, NOOO!

[WinkyDink]

38. OMG. Anyone who does this or does it to their offspring deserves to be put away for INSANITY.

[shcrane71]

40. Hell no!

[A Simple Game]

41. Again? What was wrong with the first one they put in us? n/t

[Baitball Blogger]

42. I have a graphite pencil point "tattoo" I've been wondering about.

[Zalatix]

45. Funny how those Christian so-called "idiots" predicted this one 2000 years ago.

No rational person (Christian or otherwise) should sign on to being micro-chipped.

[WriteWrong]

46. Can I have the source code?

When they want to chip everybody, the chips will be small enough that they won't have to ask your permission because you won't notice.

Really, though, it depends on what the chips do. Identifying you is only the beginning. When they can adjust drug and hormone levels, and provide CNS stimulation, it's a whole new ballgame.

On the other hand, they could just punish you. Give every criminal and dissenter a hive of hornet chips. Or worse.

[RB TexLa]

48. And what would be so horrible about people knowing where you are?

Really? What are you up to?

[UnrepentantLiberal]

50. Sure.

It would speed up the grocery checkout line.

[jp11]

51. Not if I have a choice but it isn't needed with facial recognition software.

My state is implementing new driver's licenses in the next few years and they will be taking scans of our faces to be used in the future to identify us. So walking down the street with a camera and it records you it can be used to track your face as you are now in the system and they can id all the faces it catches. With the license plate scanners, toll passes, cell phone tracking, credit cards, passports just about all of us could be tracked and even might be without ever knowing about it.

[FreeJoe]

55. I think I already am

I carry around a cell phone. It constantly broadcasts my location and scads of companies and agencies appear to be recording it. I guess the one functional difference is that I can turn off my phone, but the truth is that I virtually never do.

[kenny blankenship]

56. I wouldn't even let them tatoo a number on the inside of my forearm

not if I could help it.

[mwooldri]

57. Depends on costs vs benefits.

I can see many benefits of me having a chip embedded into something like the top of my wrist.

Good things: no need to carry around ID, credit or debit cards, house keys, car keys, passports, or even medical records. A wave of a chipped wrist by a special reader to open doors, start cars, pay for items, prove my identity, enter or leave the country... or if I am passed out for an EMT tech to grab my personal details and critical medical information... all of these I see are *good* things.

However there are downsides. One of those is whether you can be tracked *too* easily. Or whether the chip is too easy to hack and other people can impersonate you.

Personally, I'd be comfortable with applications that combine an embedded microchip (as those embedded into animals right now) with biometric identification (thumb-print scan). Those chips that pets have cannot right now be scanned at any good distance by anyone... so having the government tracking me isn't something that I'm overly concerned about.

If the cost is that I can be tracked extremely easily then I might decide that is too high a price to pay. Having someone tap a few keys into a computer and identify exactly where I am with me having no choice about the matter is too high. If I *want* to be tracked then I should have that choice, and if I don't - then I should also have that same choice.

[AJTheMan]

58. Definitely not.