Occupiers want U.S. to surrender all federal lands

[enough]

By Les Zaitz | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on January 15, 2016 at 4:20 PM, updated January 15, 2016 at 4:28 PM

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/occupiers_want_us_to_surrender.html#incart_maj-story-1

BURNS – Protesters holding the bird sanctuary southeast of here want every county in the U.S. to start a process giving back federal land to the previous owners. They expect that process to start in Harney County with a citizens group processing deeds, according to Ryan Payne, a self-styled militiaman and a key leader of the refuge occupation that started two weeks ago.

In an interview, Payne provided the most clear statement yet about what the occupiers want to achieve. They now call themselves Citizens for Constitutional Freedom.

Besides stripping land from federal control, Ryan said the group wants ranchers Dwight Hammond Jr. and his son, Steven, released from federal prison immediately. He said the group wants to see a citizen inquest investigate the Hammonds' prosecution and report to the public on allegations of abuses by the government.

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He said the land would return to the last owner of record before the government took title. He said, however, that those making "beneficial use" of the land would have their rights to grazing or water preserved. Settling who gets the property – the previous owner or the current user – would be part of the process, he said. Payne said county government should undertake the task.

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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. They want the land to be given back to its "previous owners"?

Which Native American tribes would those be?

[tencats]

4. Native Americans had the claim to the land, but they lost that claim," Bundy said

January 11, 2016.
This is buried all the way at the end of the piece.

4,000 artifacts stored at Oregon refuge held by armed group
"We also recognize that the Native Americans had the claim to the land, but they lost that claim," Bundy said. "There are things to learn from cultures of the past, but the current culture is the most important."
http://mashable.com/2016/01/15/oregon-refuge-artifacts/#ksHfPJKX98q0

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. They "lost" that claim because it was taken from them

by one-sided treaties and sheer force. Fuck Bundy.

[calguy]

6. All I can say to them is

Good luck with that

[Gman]

2. They are stupid enough to drive

Trucks with US government plates into town and get arrested, probably DWI too, and then make demands like this.

They make real terrorists look bad.

[LiberalElite]

3. If there's any surrendering to be done it should be by them nt

[99th_Monkey]

7. The only "Federal Land" reserved for these seditious armed criminals looks more like this

[madinmaryland]

8. Fucking LOSERS will be pissed when Warren Buffett buys the land and had the

tri-hatted losers arrested and humiliated.

[enough]

9. They really don't seem to have thought this through. (nt)

[hobbit709]

10. Think? These idiots think?

[Vinca]

11. Stolen property goes back to the original owners.

[Sam_Fields]

12. They further demanded more lube oil because it's going to be a long occupation.

[myrna minx]

13. Hey look everyone, Theon is now lord of Winterfell.

After a brave long siege, Theon took possession of Winterfell! These guys are beyond ridiculous. They now think they're in a position to make demands? Lol.