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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKrugman nails it, again.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/opinion/krugman-the-austerity-agenda.html?_r=2&ref=opinionThe answer is that an economy is not like an indebted family. Our debt is mostly money we owe to each other; even more important, our income mostly comes from selling things to each other. Your spending is my income, and my spending is your income.
So what happens if everyone simultaneously slashes spending in an attempt to pay down debt? The answer is that everyones income falls my income falls because youre spending less, and your income falls because Im spending less. And, as our incomes plunge, our debt problem gets worse, not better.
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And theres a clear moral to this story: When the private sector is frantically trying to pay down debt, the public sector should do the opposite, spending when the private sector cant or wont. By all means, lets balance our budget once the economy has recovered but not now. The boom, not the slump, is the right time for austerity.
daaron
(763 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)This pretty much says it all.
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-05-02/entertainment/29979887_1_predictions-columnists-paul-krugman
harun
(11,348 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)again. Why aren't Krugman, Joseph Stiglitz and James Galbraith (to name but a few who have been right about 90% of the time for the last decade) listened to in DC??
HughPeyor
(1 post)Krugman says the government must spend. He must not be paying attention.
The country owes $15.7 Trillion dollars. That's the national debt. President Obama has added more to the national debt in his 3+ years than President Bush did in 8 years.
Does Krugman know that?
The Congressional Budget Office is forecasting the deficit will hit $1.17 trillion for the entire 2012 budget year.
Does Krugman know that?
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)From the Washington Post:
Read the rest
daaron
(763 posts)rgbecker
(4,834 posts)Everyone's income and by extension, total income tax collected. Of course there will be deficits until somebody can get people to start spending again. Krugman spells this out very well and you should know, it most probably will not happen until the government primes the pump with infrastructure spending.
Do you think Romney's experience at closing down businesses, sending jobs overseas for cheaper labor and stashing the savings in banks on the Caymen Islands is the answer?
Krugman is great at making this very clear and you should spend some time reading his explanations or maybe get out your old economic text books.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)He's not paying attention to Faux "news" and their lies.
DianaForRussFeingold
(2,552 posts)"The 1930s witnessed major construction projects from coast to coast.
Millions of people found work through New Deal programs.
~ FDR was the first president to support unions.
~Under FDR, the Right To Collective Bargaining was Enacted into law when he signed the National Industrial Recovery Act.
~The Golden Gate Bridge employed union workers, because construction began after the New Deal had begun to offer such protection...."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/interview/goldengate-engineering/#.T8OxGJ6yoR4
"They Did It During The Great Depression, They Did It Without Computers,
they did it in mist and fog and wind and rain... and they did it in 4 years and 4 months.": http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002735062
"Wall Street Hated FDR Too": http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-lauria/wall-hated-fdr-too_b_163963.html
Glass-Steagall Act (1933): http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/subjects/g/glass_steagall_act_1933/index.html
HughPeyor, Did you know that?
ProfessorGAC
(65,248 posts)Displays an undeniable lack of macroeconomic acumen on your part.
GAC
Scuba
(53,475 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)girl gone mad
(20,634 posts)And why do you think it matters that government "debt" is $15.7 trillion?
Does this personally impact you in some meaningful way? Why don't you take a whole 30 seconds to think about what that "debt" actually represents.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)I read him all the time.
You didn't know that he knows that. Also, your Obama comment is bullshit.
Not to mention, you seem to have missed his point.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)You are the one who should be paying attention....to him!
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Might I recommend watching "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" during your forthcoming extended hiatus? It's a really entertaining little show, I find.
GeorgeGist
(25,324 posts)because it never includes the cash that daddy/1% has stashed in the Caymans.
DLevine
(1,788 posts)girl gone mad
(20,634 posts)I'd like to see him go a lot further than this. Why not embrace the MMT job guarantee, for example?
I really hope he will stop talking about the deficit altogether. Also, has he finally accepted the limitations of monetary policy? Remember, he argued that QE would work. HA!