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If the nuts in Oregon want to actually return the land to the people, there's a map for that. (Original Post) TalkingDog Jan 2016 OP
In fact, there's a tiny Paiute community just north of Burns. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #1
For a short time, the Malheur lake area was a Paiute reservation bhikkhu Jan 2016 #4
Very first thought I had when I heard the insurrectionist terrorist mention returning the land randys1 Jan 2016 #2
Mine also. nt Duppers Jan 2016 #6
They really should have reported their grievance to Homeland Security in the first place. lpbk2713 Jan 2016 #3
My husband has that shirt. n/t MoonchildCA Jan 2016 #16
I've been told most NAs don't use those guns. They are much more modern. Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #21
K&R Paka Jan 2016 #5
That's right! K&R!!! +10000000000000000000 2naSalit Jan 2016 #7
I am seconding this. love_katz Jan 2016 #8
I rec'd, and almost shared, but the map is absent of some major Oregon history... MerryBlooms Jan 2016 #9
Thanks for the info! FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #14
y/w :) MerryBlooms Jan 2016 #15
Every year in this small town on the Southern Oregon Coast WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2016 #31
But...but...but...the original Constitooshun says... TrollBuster9090 Jan 2016 #10
excellent, and thank you! niyad Jan 2016 #11
The BLM through the BIA oversees much Native American jwirr Jan 2016 #12
Very excellent. lonestarnot Jan 2016 #13
Thank you! n/t vkkv Jan 2016 #17
Please.... mudstump Jan 2016 #18
They act like they are hoping to start some sort of broad insurrection, or perhaps TryLogic Jan 2016 #23
from Atlantic Monthly Rafale Jan 2016 #19
If you ask them they'll claim they WON that land in the Indian Wars.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #20
Yau, well, I have a real problem with the concept of having WON it. We bought Alaska, and TryLogic Jan 2016 #22
Right Wingers believe people have to die in order for there to be freedom.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #24
Uh oh! I live right in the middle of Kalapuya territory. classof56 Jan 2016 #25
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #26
But. . .but. . .but, mainfest destiny and they aren't white! Or Christian Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #27
Public lands are treasures set aside for future generations ffr Jan 2016 #28
Seems like they don't believe in a future, WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2016 #30
What's next, Yosemite & Yellowstone? ffr Jan 2016 #29
Actually, we will see Yosemite & Yellowstone privatized if the Repugs get the WH. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2016 #32
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
1. In fact, there's a tiny Paiute community just north of Burns.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jan 2016

I suspect the Burns-Paute Colony would be more than happy to have some of that land back...

bhikkhu

(10,722 posts)
4. For a short time, the Malheur lake area was a Paiute reservation
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jan 2016

1872-1879, I think, 1.8 million acres. Then it was taken and opened up for settlement, and the Paiutes were given nothing. They kept together in the Burns area and bought a 700 acre or so tract in 1935, which forms the reservation now that they are re-recognized. One of the sadder stories in a long list of sad stories.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. Very first thought I had when I heard the insurrectionist terrorist mention returning the land
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jan 2016

White people murdered NA to steal the land, now their descendants want to murder again for the land.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
31. Every year in this small town on the Southern Oregon Coast
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jan 2016

we come together to mourn the forced relocation in 1856 of ALL the Native Americans from the Southern Oregon Coast, some by ship, but most were forced marched a couple of hundred miles north and many children and elders didn't survive the ordeal.

We still shed many tears remembering this sad event.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
10. But...but...but...the original Constitooshun says...
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 09:56 PM
Jan 2016

"But, but...er...but the original Constitooshun doesn't count INJUNS as people! So there! Black people neither, cept as 3/5ths of a person, and yer allowed to own em. The original Constitooshun just counts white men as people. That's why we're so fanaticalz about it!"

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. The BLM through the BIA oversees much Native American
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 11:23 AM
Jan 2016

land even today. I wonder if most of that land still belongs to these tribes and is called federal land for that reason.

Thank you for the map.

mudstump

(342 posts)
18. Please....
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jan 2016

quit calling these people nuts from Oregon. These people are not Oregonians. They are out-of-state agitators. Oregonians want nothing to do with them. They should get the hell out of our state!

TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
23. They act like they are hoping to start some sort of broad insurrection, or perhaps
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jan 2016

perhaps just create an excuse to shoot their guns. I guess they are nuts IN Oregon.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
20. If you ask them they'll claim they WON that land in the Indian Wars....
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 04:27 PM
Jan 2016

Never mind that was the Federal Government's ARMY still wearing the dark blue uniforms of the North from the Civil War.

TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
22. Yau, well, I have a real problem with the concept of having WON it. We bought Alaska, and
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jan 2016

that made sense. Using war to get land is a crime in my "book".

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
24. Right Wingers believe people have to die in order for there to be freedom....
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:04 PM
Jan 2016

I believe it goes back to their twisted version of the Jesus story were he died for mankind's sins. Forget everything he ever said, his bloody death is all that matters. That's what made us all free. Mind you, all of those slaughtered Indians didn't earn their freedom because they were savages who weren't members of the same blood cult.

classof56

(5,376 posts)
25. Uh oh! I live right in the middle of Kalapuya territory.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jan 2016

This could get interesting...very interesting. Meanwhile, Bundy and his Band of Idiots can go back where they came from while the gettin's good and they have their scalps intact. The ghost of Captain Jack and his Modoc warriors live on! Well, so it's said.

Meanwhile again, my 3rd-generation Oregonian spouse is lock-and-loading his AK 57 ready to ride when the National Guard is called up. Bundy really oughta turn tail and run!

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
27. But. . .but. . .but, mainfest destiny and they aren't white! Or Christian
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jan 2016

So they don't deserve anything. If only they were white. . .

Do I need the icon?

ffr

(22,671 posts)
28. Public lands are treasures set aside for future generations
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jan 2016

These militants are thieves and poachers.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
32. Actually, we will see Yosemite & Yellowstone privatized if the Repugs get the WH.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jan 2016

There has been talk of it for some time.

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