So Cliven Bundy gets nothing?

[SHRED]

When you coddle these terroristss it only gets worse.

[MohRokTah]

1. K&R

All these terrorists understand is violence. Violence is the only way to stop them.

[daleanime]

2. "Violence is the only way....."

to ensure you get more violence.

Jails exist for a reason, this is it.

[MohRokTah]

3. As the Bundy Ranch standoff proved,...

the only way this shit escalates is when you do not stamp it out immediately.

Put. It. DOWN!

[Hoppy]

4. Thank God for President Hillary. She'll tell Bundy to cut it out.

Problem solved.

[cherokeeprogressive]

6. I love it when people become cheerleaders for violent action...

It warms me so.

[daleanime]

9. I don't know about warming me, but....

it sure makes my diet easier.

[pangaia]

29. You shouldn't be surprised.

[daleanime]

8. Did they arrest anyone from the standoff?

Violence as the answer only leads to dead people, is that really your answer to our problems?

[NutmegYankee]

5. You realize that when our armed forces killed a terrorist out in a battlefield...

People on DU actually freaked out calling it an execution without a trial - never mind that the guy was in armed opposition and was an active member of an enemy military organization we are fighting.

On the other hand, we have a bunch of morons holding guns who have broken into a closed building. I think we can get them out without killing them.

[Old Codger]

7. Correct

This latest deal is a direct result of allowing the other one to go unpunished, they feel emboldened to do more and more...

[SoLeftIAmRight]

10. easy way to put out this "fire"

bring in the fire fighting helicopters - drop a load of water every hour on the hour

the dumb asses will freeze or come out looking like the dumb asses they are

[SHRED]

12. Too risky

They'll shoot the helicopter.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

15. drop from very high - shooting down a helicopter would end their ability to...

come out of this without serious jail time

clive and they nuts have got to get put down

[SHRED]

16. water drops from high altitude are ineffective

[SoLeftIAmRight]

17. no -the cold wet dumb asses will come out

armed invasion - long standoff - both bad options

freeze them out

[SHRED]

18. Freeze them I agree

Cut off power and water. No more toilet flushing.
If they have generators take them out with sharpshooters.

[MiniMe]

24. Cut off food, electricity and all water to their location

That would be the most effective I think. Nothing goes in or out.

[GGJohn]

11. So what's your solution? eom.

[SHRED]

13. Arrest Cliven like they should have and with these yahoos...

...Cut off water and power and freeze them out.
If they have generators disable them with sharpshooters.

[GGJohn]

14. Agreed. eom.

[jmowreader]

20. No shooting. That will cause the sovereign citizens to declare war on all of us

Y'know, a person would THINK the police could come up with a ton of seized marijuana and a big fan...

[pnwmom]

28. Cliven is a NV guy whose wondering what this OR thing has to do with him.

[Hoyt]

19. Armed white wing racist terrorists have always been coddled here. Don't need to shoot the yahoos --

unless they shoot first. But we do need to arrest them and imprison them like the terrorists they are.

[SHRED]

21. Agreed but Cliven still roams free.

[pnwmom]

30. No, he's in prison.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/2/20/1365354/-Cliven-Bundy-Sent-to-Prison

[NobodyHere]

32. Papa Bundy is still free

[pnwmom]

33. You're right. I finally figured that out. nt

[jwirr]

22. The bundy mess and this one are not just a little group of

men who threatened the government - these groups have members spread out all over the US. While I do not think they should get by with it like bundy did I also think that the suggestions made in another post made a lot of sense.

They have isolated themselves. Lay siege and cut them off from everything and wait for them to come out. That is when they need to be arrested.

[larkrake]

23. now is the moment to go in and arrest papa Bundy, forfeiture to pay for his fines

[pnwmom]

26. They have liens against the ranch so he can't sell it or transfer it.

And the fines are accumulating.

[pnwmom]

25. The Bundys are in prison right now.

A five year term for setting a fire to cover-up their deer poaching. But you can bet they were on the Federal radar screen after their little stand-off.

[phleshdef]

27. Thats not the Bundys... thats the Hammonds.

The Hammonds are the Oregon ranchers that got re-sentenced over the arson and that sparked what was suppose to be a peaceful protest. (because they were re-sentenced to a longer prison term because the first judge didn't honor federal minimum sentencing standards). Some Bundy boys and their crew came in and hijacked the protest and have tried to turn it into a Waco situation.

[pnwmom]

31. Cliven Bundy is in prison.

But you're right -- this is the Cliven Bundy who is the son.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/2/20/1365354/-Cliven-Bundy-Sent-to-Prison

[phleshdef]

34. Yea one of the sons are in prison for totally unrelated matters.

But the poachers/arsonists are the Hammonds in Oregon. Just wanted to make sure everyone keeps the facts straight...

[pnwmom]

35. It's hard to keep all the militia gun nuts straight. Thanks for the help. n/t

[phleshdef]

36. Yea, from what I read, the Hammonds don't even want the Bundy klan to be doing what they are doing.

They don't want to spend more time in jail, but they've distanced themselves from this whole armed takeover of a bird sanctuary thing, lol.