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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 08:06 AM Jan 2016

Goat Meat Found in Home of Indian Man Killed Over Rumors That He Ate Beef

Goat Meat Found in Home of Indian Man Killed Over Rumors That He Ate Beef

http://www.thedailymeal.com/travel/goat-meat-found-home-indian-man-killed-over-rumors-he-ate-beef/123015

A preliminary investigation regarding the death of Mohammad Ikhlaq — the Indian Muslim who was beaten to death by an angry crowd over rumors that he had slaughtered and eaten a cow — has found that the meat in question taken from Ikhlaq’s home was goat meat, not beef.

In September, Ikhlaq and his family were attacked by an estimated 100 people in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh, where the possession and killing of cows is illegal. The animal is considered sacred to the country’s 80 percent Hindu majority. In recent months, an increasingly conservative ruling party has been seen as condoning a number of acts of violence against non-Hindus who do eat beef, or are suspected of doing so.

Roughly a month after Ikhlaq’s death, another Muslim man, Mohammad Hasmat Ali, was also beaten to death by a mob who suspected him of stealing a cow.

A doctor’s note from the Government Veterinary Hospital in Dadri, written in September, said, “It seems that this meat belongs to goat progeny.” The meat has been sent to another lab for a final forensic test, according to the New York Times.

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Goat Meat Found in Home of Indian Man Killed Over Rumors That He Ate Beef (Original Post) Miles Archer Jan 2016 OP
Holy cow. mmonk Jan 2016 #1
Human beings' lives must be really empty to give a flying fugg malaise Jan 2016 #2
I think it is more than being empty and more than caring about what someone eats... ellenrr Jan 2016 #3
Religious fundamentalism: Not just for Christians and Muslims Spider Jerusalem Jan 2016 #4
People who buy the BS sold by fellow humans malaise Jan 2016 #5
It's not about the person involved. Igel Jan 2016 #11
It's sick malaise Jan 2016 #12
Ain't religion fun? hobbit709 Jan 2016 #6
Religions suck. FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #7
Religiou fervor is ridiculous and life threatening. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #8
Sorry folks but you can't blame religion. KentuckyWoman Jan 2016 #9
I hope his family feels exonerated and there is some enlightenment from the 100+ who mobbed this man Green Forest Jan 2016 #10

malaise

(269,091 posts)
2. Human beings' lives must be really empty to give a flying fugg
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 08:51 AM
Jan 2016

about what your neighbor is eating.

Shakes head.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
3. I think it is more than being empty and more than caring about what someone eats...
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 08:59 AM
Jan 2016

remember the woman who was beaten, stoned, and burned to death in Kabal bec. it was RUMORED she had burned a Koran.
It turned out she hadn't burned a Koran.
She was martyed and 100's or thousands came out to her funeral.
she is forgiven.
But what if she HAD burned a Koran?
Would this merit her punishment?

No one - even the women who demanded that she be "rehabilitated" and remembered for being a good woman - no one said in the BBC program I saw last nite, that it is immaterial whether or not she burned a Koran--
that the point is the way this mob behaved.

and I would say the same thing about this case of the cow or goat.

malaise

(269,091 posts)
5. People who buy the BS sold by fellow humans
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 09:04 AM
Jan 2016

in the name of imaginary friends are beyond empty - fugg all religion.


Happy New Year Spider Jerusalem

Igel

(35,323 posts)
11. It's not about the person involved.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jan 2016

It's about the cow, religion, symbols, and societal norms. "Cow" we don't care about; "religion" we care slightly more about. But when it comes to the sanctity of symbols and conformity to the "right" social norms, DUers are all over it--as is pretty much everybody else.

There are anecdotes--some specific (1943, specific newspaper, in Turkmenistan) about an editor who was bullied until he was hospitalized from a heart attack and exiled from the Party (meaning he'd lose his job and any decent social status) for a typo: gavnokomanduyushchii, referring to a Red Army commander. "Glavnokomanduyushchii" means "commander in chief" or "supreme commander," but not necessarily Stalin. Drop out the 'l' and it's pronounced exactly the same in standard Russian as "govnokomanduiushii" or "shit-commander".

Fable has it that somebody else got 7 years in the camps in 1951 for the same typo.

Similar apocryphal stories about "polkovodets" (troop leader) and "palkovvodets" (stick-inserter) abound.

That these are apocryphal isn't the point; this kind story is plausible because of very real persecution for random errors that happened, not because anybody much cared about the person making the error, although that no doubt happened, but because such errors were jabs, however accidentally, at a symbol of state power and authority, a state with policies that many supported or a leader that many valued.

Couple that with suspicion and it's a toxic mix. Not about religion. Nor "what somebody's eating." Because we must protect and advance our symbols and our causes, our leaders and power that we support.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
7. Religions suck.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:17 AM
Jan 2016

I'd like to think that one day the human race will get past it's desire for mythical gods and other silly beliefs.

KentuckyWoman

(6,688 posts)
9. Sorry folks but you can't blame religion.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 11:39 AM
Jan 2016

It's just basic bullying. Take religion out of the picture and a humans will still bully. The powers will also still condition the majority to have an "us vs them" mentality to maintain control.

Human's are simply violent. Any excuse will do.

 

Green Forest

(232 posts)
10. I hope his family feels exonerated and there is some enlightenment from the 100+ who mobbed this man
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jan 2016

How very sad. Conservative interpretations of religious dictat seem to always result in civil injustice.

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