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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 04:37 PM Dec 2015

ISIL issues detailed fatwa for the correct way to rape women and girls

Jihadis of the "Islamic State" have released a document detailing what "owners" are permitted to do with enslaved women. The fatwa is a part of documents seized by the US army in May, according to Reuters news agency.

US soldiers retrieved a huge trove of documents during a raid in Syria in May this year. The fatwa was one among many such rulings passed by "Islamic State" (IS) militants, who have captured vast swathes of Iraq and Syria.

"Some of the brothers have committed violations in the matter of the treatment of the female slaves. These violations are not permitted by Sharia law, because these rules have not been dealt with in ages, " said a document titled "ISIL committee of research and fatwas" published by Reuters news agency.

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http://www.dw.com/en/islamic-state-releases-fatwa-for-male-owners-of-women-slaves/a-18950434

More:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0UC0DZ20151229

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ISIL issues detailed fatwa for the correct way to rape women and girls (Original Post) cali Dec 2015 OP
Disgusting GummyBearz Dec 2015 #1
That and the claim that this isn't really happening- Kuwait incubator babies, cali Dec 2015 #3
Are you saying that Iraqis killed babies in incubators? Kelvin Mace Dec 2015 #4
No. I am saying that people who compare the fake incubator story cali Dec 2015 #6
Ah, Kelvin Mace Dec 2015 #12
I wouldn't make a claim to that, but I'd make the claim that propaganda HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #18
In fact the "Kuwait Incubator Babies" story was false. yellowcanine Dec 2015 #5
Yes, I know. I thought I was clear. In fact I was. cali Dec 2015 #7
Apparently not all that clear though. yellowcanine Dec 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author deathrind Dec 2015 #2
"Didn't you get the memo?" lpbk2713 Dec 2015 #8
Well, thanks. We really need to see the enemy as evil monsters HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #9
Evil is as evil does GummyBearz Dec 2015 #11
I have no way to judge the credibility of this 'isil' statement HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #17
Sickening LeftishBrit Dec 2015 #10
More mythical voodoo bullshit romanic Dec 2015 #14
It infects the entire Abrahamic tradition. Coventina Dec 2015 #15
Don't criticize Islam though.... davidn3600 Dec 2015 #16
 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
1. Disgusting
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 04:39 PM
Dec 2015

And anyone who replies "there are christians who would do the same thing here" needs a mental health check up.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. That and the claim that this isn't really happening- Kuwait incubator babies,
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 04:45 PM
Dec 2015

yadda, yadda,yadda- are held by folks deeply invested in a mentality that western culture, and in particular, the U.S. are in every conceivable way the worst.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. No. I am saying that people who compare the fake incubator story
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:08 PM
Dec 2015

with this very real story, are full of shit.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
18. I wouldn't make a claim to that, but I'd make the claim that propaganda
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:57 PM
Dec 2015

and psy-ops are real as demonstrated by the baby killing in Kuwaiti incubators showed

How, after that can I not suspect that someone thinks its important for me to see enemies as evil as possible?

Interventionist reasoning isn't based on much other than seeing the enemy's values contrasted to our own. The juxtaposition is a powerful as a clash of titans.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
5. In fact the "Kuwait Incubator Babies" story was false.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:07 PM
Dec 2015

The "eyewitness" who made the claim wasn't there and was actually the 15 yr old daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador and was living in Washington DC at the time of the invasion of Kuwait.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_(testimony)

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/incubatorlie.html

Probably not a good idea to use actual propaganda as an example while trying to refute a false claim of propaganda. At the least, it confuses the issue.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
7. Yes, I know. I thought I was clear. In fact I was.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:10 PM
Dec 2015

I said people comparing that fake story with this, are full of shit

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
13. Apparently not all that clear though.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:25 PM
Dec 2015

At least to a couple of us. And the old teacher saying is, if one student doesn't get it there are probably are others who also don't get it but just aren't saying anything.

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HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
9. Well, thanks. We really need to see the enemy as evil monsters
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:14 PM
Dec 2015

because it softens us up for further insertion of boots on the ground they've defiled

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
17. I have no way to judge the credibility of this 'isil' statement
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:53 PM
Dec 2015

I do know that psy-ops aren't just conspiracy theory. I remember tales of Iraqi troops killing babies in Kuwaiti incubators. . .

I thereby turn this problem along the axis of who benefits from this narrative? The answer I is someone who wants me to judge isil and find it evil.

So why would those anonymous someones want me to think that?

romanic

(2,841 posts)
14. More mythical voodoo bullshit
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:35 PM
Dec 2015

to treat women like shit in the name of "islam" (or a really warped version of it).

Coventina

(27,169 posts)
15. It infects the entire Abrahamic tradition.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:38 PM
Dec 2015

But, at least Judaism and Christianity have MOSTLY modernized.

Their scriptures haven't, but their practice has.

Islam is lagging behind the other two, but they are all patriarchal systems at heart.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
16. Don't criticize Islam though....
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:52 PM
Dec 2015

...you'll be called a racist.

Seems to be the only religion in the world deemed off limits to criticism.

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