Wow. Wingnuts believe Trump will get huge support from minorities and dems

[cali]

in the general election. This is being touted on every right wing site.

How can people be that delusional?



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Forty percent of black voters support Trump over anyone else, according to the new poll, while 45 percent of Hispanic voters back the Republican presidential front-runner. Trump was supported by 37.7 percent of all whites. Overall, Trump was favored by 37.8 of respondents. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, was a distant second at 23.1 percent.

The poll showed 60 percent of those who consider themselves very liberal supporting Trump. Trump received 40 percent support among liberals and 41 percent among both moderates and conservatives. By party affiliation, Trump gathered nearly 40 percent of the GOP voters' support, 31 percent of the independents and 26-plus percent of the Democrats.

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http://www.westernjournalism.com/something-beyond-stunning-was-just-revealed-about-trump-and-minorities-liberals-will-lose-it/

BREAKING POLL: 40% of Blacks Line Up Behind Trump – 45% of Hispanics

Read more:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/breaking-poll-40-of-blacks-line-behind-trump-45-of-hispanics/#ixzz3vjOr63Nd

[jwirr]

1. I am old enough to remember how Democratic voters

left the party to follow raygun. I am not sure about this one.

[malthaussen]

7. But Raygun's appeal was from a whole different angle.

He was the handsome and personable matinee idol who was going to ride in on a white horse and make America feel good about itself again. And since America was feeling pretty lousy in the late 70's, that idea had a lot of appeal to persons of more-or-less good will. The racism and bigotry were downplayed, as were all the facets the RW economic ideology. With Trump, the appeal is only to visceral hatred, and I doubt there is enough of that, even now in the U.S., to win over anyone undecided.

The real question, IMO, is whether anyone will bother to vote. We know the bigots will.

-- Mal

[jwirr]

11. I hope you are correct.

[edhopper]

21. Not only that

but many of those Dems were the older racist Southern Democrats who hadn't yet made their way to the GOP.

[Human101948]

28. Reagan Democrats were racists who believed that blacks were getting all the breaks...

and Ronnie pandered to them.

[Hortensis]

29. Right. Reportedly, only half of those who share Teump's purported

views support him.

You know, the man has an obvious and diagnosable full-blown personality disorder. It's considered unethical for psychologists to label people they haven't formally assessed, but in this case some are speaking out in public, feeling a duty to do so. IF he were to get the nomination and people no longer tippytoed nervously around him, trying to keep this loose flywheel from destroying the GOP, as now, Hillary's camp would slice and dice him. He's not just dysfunctional and profoundly incompetent, he's extremely vulnerable because of it.

[questionseverything]

12. i have heard on c span people say that they voted for obama but now support trump

on the early morning call in show...not many but a few

trump says his income tax plan is 0 up to 25 grand a person...we ignore that populous message at our own risk

[samplegirl]

2. I certainly have heard any minority praising Donald Trump.

I hope that is what he is counting on though! It's just not going to happen.

[corkhead]

3. Please - nobody tell them otherwise.

[Scuba]

4. Remember how it went when the last Republican Presidential candidate reached out to minorities?

[irisblue]

6. one of the best political photos of 2012

thanks Scuba

[irisblue]

5. they didn't check my demographic...

middle aged white lesbian liberals who do pay attention and faithfully vote.
geez, who thought this up?

[oberliner]

20. I don't think that is Trump's demographic

Pretty sure they suspect you won't be voting Republican.

[Kingofalldems]

8. So why did you post it here?

[cali]

9. Because it's interesting

[H2O Man]

37. It is.

And it's worthy of discussion.

[Gothmog]

10. Trump really thinks that he will do well with Latino voters

Romney got 27% of the Latino vote and I have seen polls with Trump at 12%

[randys1]

26. His idiot supporters think it, and that is all that matters. The whole Trump deal is about

preventing the horridly stupid teaparty from taking power.

Convincing many of them their man has it "in the bag" is part of the plan.

[Xolodno]

13. Tell yourself a lie enough times and eventually

...you will come to believe it.

It makes sense in their warped world view.

Remember "Unskewed Polls" predicting Romney in a landslide?

They just don't rationalize it to themselves, they set up the infrastructure that somehow "proves" their rationalization.

[davidn3600]

14. Underestimating Trump would be a huge mistake

This election is going to be far closer than you think. You look at the head-to-head general election match-ups and Hillary isn't exactly running away with this.

Republicans don't need to win the Hispanic vote, they just need to win enough of them. Then you combine that with the Democrat's increasing problem with white men slowly drifting away from the party and you may end up with a very close election. Hillary doesn't have the outsider mentality and motivation that Obama had. To think she's simply going to automatically adopt his coalition by winning the nomination is completely ridiculous.

Also, one terrorist attack by ISIS next year may be enough to tip the scales the other way. Don't underestimate fear. It makes people do irrational things.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Facepalm

there are actual minorities who will actually yes, indeed, VOTE FOR TRUMP.

They have told me this.

I believe they are outliers, but they do exist.

[tazkcmo]

31. Yup.

I've talked to a couple of Mexican-Americans that are voting for him, too.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. African Americans and Mexican Americans have told me this

At this point I still believe this is an outlier, mostly not enough data, but once I get more data, I might revise that opinion if the data confirms that this is more widespread than outliers.

People keep under estimating Trump. I went and said it back in the Summer, at RSD, yes on the record, that Trump is activating fears, and has a very good chance of getting the nomination I have more recently called him a fascist too. So sue me.

[CanonRay]

16. When they don't, it will be because we "stole" the election

they have a vast capacity for believing their own lies.

[BlueState]

17. This poll is not about the general election

From WND (I hate to link here but in case you don't believe me)

The question: “If you were voting today in your state’s primary or caucus election for the Republican nomination for president, and the candidates were, in alphabetical order, Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, John Kasich, Marco Rubio and Donald Trump, for whom would you vote?”

So they have a random (small) sample of registered voters, that includes both Democrats and Republicans and ask them if how they would vote if they were to vote in the Republican primary. This is ridiculous.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/minorities-line-up-behind-donald-trump/#C17AI3cUOkupq2Jx.99

[Yo_Mama]

18. I'm married to a Hispanic naturalized citizen who is voting Trump.

And I know several black people who say they are for him too.

[loyalsister]

22. I have talked to a couple of black men who are leaning towards Trump

Both have been sold the lie that wealth and fame reflect credibility and success in business would translate to successful government leadership. Neither have looked at details.

[Yo_Mama]

23. What I'm seeing is Obama voters who are now for Trump.

My husband was an Obama voter.

[loyalsister]

30. Wow

Is it a charisma thing where it doesn't necessarily matter what is said, but how it is said (forcefully, passionately, sincerely, etc)?

Kind of like how we like certain actors even when they play dispicable characters. Politicians will pay a lot of money to learn how to do that (I think it comes natural for Obama). I'm sure Trump learned a lot via entertainment media training. W probably came by it naturally, too. Sadly, many people saw him as genuine and likable. I had a friend who had a mad crush on him and was also a big Obama supporter. This is not a stupid woman, either. She does, however tend to be impressed by fame.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. yes and looks

my aunt (RIP) was a case study in this in Mexico, It did not matter to her what they said... just how they looked. Tall, lean handsome men... and yes there are studies in the US that show the same. Why things like step stools are used behind podiums to make pols of different heights be at the same height.

[loyalsister]

35. I remember reading that about height

Obviously appearance factors like youth and attractiveness attract some voters, too. Since Nixon the relevantly younger of the two wins with the only exception being an actor.

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. yeppers

[Vinca]

19. Somewhere I read or heard about an Obama supporter who is now supporting Trump.

I don't get it.

[madville]

24. I know minorities that like Trump and other Republicans

it's not impossible. I think the appeal can be attributed to single issue voter thinking. These guys are gun enthusiasts and are big 2nd amendment supporters, they literally think all Democrats want to take away their guns. I've been trying to educate them a little by pointing out that Bernie has a relatively strong pro-gun background among Democratic candidates, Hillary is pretty unpopular though.

[spanone]

25. if you believe in trump, what's a few more fantasies?

[underpants]

27. He's creating his own headline - EVERYONE'S DOING IT

[stevil]

33. I KNOW. This guy must be crazy right?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251954089

[SteveG]

38. the one thing the hard right really fears is that "their" candidate

is a fraud. Seeing an article like this would scare the "True Believers" away, since it implies that Trump would have strong liberal minority support. Exactly those whom the hard right hate and fear the most.

This is clearly the work of those inside the Republican establishment who want to derail Trump. This line of attack isn't going to bring Progressives to Trump's cause, but it will alienate a good portion of the core Republican Electorate.