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REP

(21,691 posts)
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 06:16 PM Dec 2015

I never do this, but: Seen on Facebook

I never repost crap I've seen on Facebook but I'm making an exception, because this graphic from the '50s is exceptional. Well, I guess not really if one is familiar with the creators of Superman and the early stories ... but we need a lot more of this.

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I never do this, but: Seen on Facebook (Original Post) REP Dec 2015 OP
Great find! K&R n/t ljm2002 Dec 2015 #1
That is awesome! peacebird Dec 2015 #2
Wow. How quaint, but sadly so. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #3
Right. Forcing American values on Americans.... Beartracks Dec 2015 #39
From the 50's, should add "unless they're a commie." mountain grammy Dec 2015 #4
I have nothing to back this up, but think it might've been issued to fight REP Dec 2015 #8
And you just might be right.. mountain grammy Dec 2015 #12
"truth, justice and the American way" murielm99 Dec 2015 #38
I saw that on fb. One person commented that the copyright date is 1960something which is just japple Dec 2015 #5
The copyright date is 1936. HubertHeaver Dec 2015 #7
You're right - it's 1936 REP Dec 2015 #9
That would be a neat trick MurrayDelph Dec 2015 #15
Your eyes are better than mine! REP Dec 2015 #17
Your eyes are better than mine, too. I guess they're better than that person who posted japple Dec 2015 #23
No, not 1936.. X_Digger Dec 2015 #29
Copyright 1949 JHB Dec 2015 #33
I remember those 'duck and cover"... 3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #34
Still Super, after all these years pinboy3niner Dec 2015 #6
in other words, trump is UN-AMERICAN spanone Dec 2015 #10
Yup. REP Dec 2015 #11
According to Superman mountain grammy Dec 2015 #13
Superman was one of the first intergalactic border babies DFW Dec 2015 #14
Jews were not regarded as white when Superman arrived REP Dec 2015 #21
Louis Brandeis was appointed to the SCOTUS in 1916 DFW Dec 2015 #24
No rule is REP Dec 2015 #25
Our strength madokie Dec 2015 #16
Absolutely REP Dec 2015 #18
complexity is beauty madokie Dec 2015 #20
I remember watching a show airplaneman Dec 2015 #19
i immediately found it and shared it on fb too barbtries Dec 2015 #22
They start hating Superman? Kalidurga Dec 2015 #26
Wow, Superman has his hand on the head of an Asian kid.. yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #27
I noticed that, too REP Dec 2015 #30
Maybe he's covering the kid's ears? jomin41 Dec 2015 #37
I taught in a place like that 50 languages, all religions etc..(high school) Stuart G Dec 2015 #28
I live in a place like that - the USA REP Dec 2015 #31
Trump is Kraptonite to American Goals and Ideals kairos12 Dec 2015 #32
Kraptonite - 3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #36
From post #3 above - 3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #35
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. Wow. How quaint, but sadly so.
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 06:35 PM
Dec 2015

Today some would scream bloody murder with outrage, that this is downright Liberal or
Progressive or some such; back then it was just a widely-shared ethic of common decency.

Not to overly glamorize the 50s -- esp. given the racism & segregation, and violent responses
to the civil rights movement -- but I spent much of my younger years in that decade and recall
when super-heros had a ethics and there was good v. evil, good guys & bad guys, and there
was an air of common decency afoot.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
39. Right. Forcing American values on Americans....
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 05:08 PM
Dec 2015

... and demanding that they uphold American ideals is just fascism!!!11!eleventy-one!!

So sayeth the GOP.

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mountain grammy

(26,624 posts)
4. From the 50's, should add "unless they're a commie."
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 06:38 PM
Dec 2015

But, seriously, this is a great poster.Oh how we try to get it right.

REP

(21,691 posts)
8. I have nothing to back this up, but think it might've been issued to fight
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 07:33 PM
Dec 2015

the "unless they're a Commie" xenophobia of the era, because it stresses that xenophobia is UN-American. I could be wrong.

mountain grammy

(26,624 posts)
12. And you just might be right..
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 07:42 PM
Dec 2015

there was a lot of xenophobia then. Really, the 50's are touted as a golden age, but I remember bomb drills in elementary school. Scared all us kids to death with that crap. This a a great, positive message.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
38. "truth, justice and the American way"
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 04:51 PM
Dec 2015

I remember that from the TV show. It sounds odd now.

This is a great message, though. Thanks.

japple

(9,833 posts)
5. I saw that on fb. One person commented that the copyright date is 1960something which is just
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 06:42 PM
Dec 2015

under Superman's feet. I think that it really must be from the 50s (or earlier). Don't copyright holders have to renew for later printings? It looks much more like 1950s than 1960s, IMHO.

Great poster nonetheless.

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
7. The copyright date is 1936.
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 06:52 PM
Dec 2015

Judging from the manner of dress and the fat-tire bicycle I think 1936 is accurate.

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
15. That would be a neat trick
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 07:50 PM
Dec 2015

considering that the first appearance of Superman was in Action Comics 1,which has a cover date of June, 1938.

REP

(21,691 posts)
17. Your eyes are better than mine!
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 08:15 PM
Dec 2015

I may be familiar with the story of Superman's creation but am obviously foggy on dates I could see that it was a "3" and not a "6" in the third position but messed up on the fourth.

japple

(9,833 posts)
23. Your eyes are better than mine, too. I guess they're better than that person who posted
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 08:29 PM
Dec 2015

on FB that it was 1966 (or 68 or whatever they said it was.)

JHB

(37,161 posts)
33. Copyright 1949
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:43 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Sat Dec 26, 2015, 12:25 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.snopes.com/superman-1950-poster-diversity/

While we haven't been able to pinpoint the exact origins of the colorized version of the poster shown above, we were able to confirm that this is a genuine piece of comic book art that was originally released in 1949.

According to a 2008 Hakes auction, the above-displayed comic was released as a school book cover in 1949 and was distributed by the The Institute For American Democracy Inc:

12x18" brown paper with black art images and text. ©1949 Nat'l Comics Pub. Inc. Distributed by The Institute For American Democracy Inc. Book cover features art image of Superman that appears to be by noted Superman comic book artist Wayne Boring showing Superman standing with group of children, text balloon reading "... And Remember, Boys And Girls, Your School — Like Our Country — Is Made Up Of Americans Of Many Different Races, Religions And National Origins. So ..." and continues underneath "... If YOU Hear Anybody Talk Against A Schoolmate Or Anyone Else Because Of His Religion, Race Or National Origin &Amdahl; Don't Wait: Tell Him THAT KIND OF TALK IS UN-AMERICAN. HELP KEEP YOUR SCHOOL ALL-AMERICAN!" Book cover has handling wear, mostly along center vertical fold line, resulting in numerous small creases not greatly infringing into art area. Fine. Art area featuring Superman remains VF. Scarce.



Second item on the list in a Google search for the terms: superman school poster "un-american". Just a gentle reminder.

EDITED TO ADD: It's possible the poster has a different (updated) copyright date from when it was printed. Impossible to tell without a picture with better resolution.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
34. I remember those 'duck and cover"...
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 12:08 PM
Dec 2015

...drill quite clearly, and also remember wondering how hiding under my desk was going to protect me from a nuclear blast.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
14. Superman was one of the first intergalactic border babies
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 07:45 PM
Dec 2015

Sent to Smallville with no papers or documents, he was adopted, assimilated quickly.

He was apparently a quick learner, became a member of his community, and was embraced by them in spite of his complete lack of documentation or financial means. In part, it was probably due to his European-appearing ethnicity, but being able to fly, faster than sound, being immune to gunfire, and having X-ray vision probably didn't weigh in as negatives, either.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
24. Louis Brandeis was appointed to the SCOTUS in 1916
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 09:11 PM
Dec 2015

Superman arrived in 1939. That rule was not absolute.

airplaneman

(1,239 posts)
19. I remember watching a show
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 08:19 PM
Dec 2015

and being surprised to see superman give a speech about buying US Savings Bonds at the end of the show.
-Airplane

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
22. i immediately found it and shared it on fb too
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 08:25 PM
Dec 2015

can't help wondering what seeing that does to the haters...hopefully it makes them think for a minute at least.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
26. They start hating Superman?
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 11:59 PM
Dec 2015

I really don't know. I can't see one single poster actually making them think.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
28. I taught in a place like that 50 languages, all religions etc..(high school)
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 12:09 AM
Dec 2015

A couple of days after the Oklahoma City Bombing in April of 1995. We discussed it for a while..After class, a couple of Muslim students who were very kind, and A students by the way, came up to me to discuss this. They said that their version of their religion would never tolerate that kind of violence. So a few days later, it turned out to be a white former soldier who had a revenge motive for another ugly incident of killing. But, I do recall that the media went after the Muslim religion directly after the bombing..there was some kind of suspect..who happened to be "Muslim"..

..Tim McVeigh, if I recall was the terrorist..,..

REP

(21,691 posts)
31. I live in a place like that - the USA
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 12:48 AM
Dec 2015

I really do believe that our diversity is one of our greatest strengths. Yes, it can make some things complex, but that's not a bad thing. And yes, there's some stupid in that mix, but that can be found everywhere in the world. We're not special in that case.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
35. From post #3 above -
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 12:13 PM
Dec 2015

"Today some would scream bloody murder with outrage, that this is downright Liberal or
Progressive or some such; back then it was just a widely-shared ethic of common decency."

Like common sense, common decency has become most uncommon.

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