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Christmas in Prison. Don't forget Don Siegelman (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Dec 2015 OP
Free Don. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #1
Gov.Don Siegelman was one of the most popular Southern Dems since Jimmy Carter. Octafish Dec 2015 #2
Best thing is to follow him on twitter @DonSiegelman ViseGrip Dec 2015 #3
I don't understand why Pres Obama hasn't pardoned him newfie11 Dec 2015 #4
Probably because he hasn't filed for a pardon. msanthrope Dec 2015 #5
Thanks for the information. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #6
You were misinformed. former9thward Dec 2015 #8
Then he should have. A long time ago. nt SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #9
Yes but he would have to answer a question that he does not want to answer. former9thward Dec 2015 #10
I didn't know that. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #11
As you know a president can pardon at any time. former9thward Dec 2015 #7
Why would he pardon him when madville Dec 2015 #12

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
2. Gov.Don Siegelman was one of the most popular Southern Dems since Jimmy Carter.
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 12:58 AM
Dec 2015

His leadership, brains, and connections made him a threat. Karl Rove and BFEE couldn't let him become a national figure. What shocks me is the cowardice of the Obama administration in allowing and supporting cough Elena cough Kagan the miscarriage of justice Just-Us.

Merry Christmas, Gov. Siegelman! John Prine doesn't know what he's talking about.* The food is lousy.

I kid. The guy is great artist.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
3. Best thing is to follow him on twitter @DonSiegelman
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 01:54 AM
Dec 2015

I sent him a card, and I received a nice card back today. I didn't expect that!

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
4. I don't understand why Pres Obama hasn't pardoned him
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 08:57 AM
Dec 2015

Not long ago he pardoned several people but no mention of Siegelman.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
5. Probably because he hasn't filed for a pardon.
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 09:10 AM
Dec 2015

The case is legally complex, and he's currently still on appeal. I do agree that the President should consider a pardon request, once it's made.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
6. Thanks for the information.
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 12:25 PM
Dec 2015

I, too, have been wondering. (I know virtually nothing about the mechanics of the pardon process.)

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
8. You were misinformed.
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 06:20 PM
Dec 2015

A president can pardon any federal crime or potential federal crime at any time. Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution gives the pardon powers of the President.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
10. Yes but he would have to answer a question that he does not want to answer.
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 08:32 PM
Dec 2015

Why did he appoint Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court when it was she who fought Siegelman's appeal and asked for a greater sentence?

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
7. As you know a president can pardon at any time.
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 06:00 PM
Dec 2015

No request need be made. But no need to worry about having to continue making apologetic defenses of Obama's refusal to pardon. Siegelman will be getting out in 2017 about the same time Obama leaves office.

madville

(7,412 posts)
12. Why would he pardon him when
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 10:40 PM
Dec 2015

The Obama Justice Department has been fighting to keep him in prison for years? It really makes no sense for the President to pardon him at this point when it's been his administration that has kept the guy in prison for pretty much his entire two terms.

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