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JEB

(4,748 posts)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:54 PM Dec 2015

Prime candidate for pardon or commuting of sentence: Leonard Peltier.

http://www.freeleonard.org/case/

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CASE OF LEONARD PELTIER
Leonard Peltier

Leonard Peltier is an imprisoned Native American considered by Amnesty International, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, National Congress of American Indians, the Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Center for Human Rights, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Rev. Jesse Jackson, among many others, to be a political prisoner who should be immediately released.
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Why not Leonard? Could the reason be political? Or....?
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Prime candidate for pardon or commuting of sentence: Leonard Peltier. (Original Post) JEB Dec 2015 OP
Oh it's political. Sadly I'd forgotten about Peltier. elias49 Dec 2015 #1
He was convicted of murdering two FBI Agents. leftofcool Dec 2015 #2
Two others were acquitted as self defense. JEB Dec 2015 #4
This President doesn't pscot Dec 2015 #3
He's one of a handful of prisoners for whom I think it's important on a gut level.. Chan790 Dec 2015 #5
K & R... dhill926 Dec 2015 #6
K&R!!!! 2naSalit Dec 2015 #7
There's no good reason. A couple of bad ones I can imagine are Mc Mike Dec 2015 #8
I hope he does it just before leaving office. JEB Dec 2015 #9
I think there's no wrong time to free him, but the sooner the better. Mc Mike Dec 2015 #10
The FBI would throw a fit madville Dec 2015 #11
You would think so madokie Dec 2015 #12
 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
1. Oh it's political. Sadly I'd forgotten about Peltier.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:57 PM
Dec 2015

He crossed the FBI about hundred years ago. He'll probably be 'allowed' to die in prison.
How pathetic and spiteful of our "justice" system.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
5. He's one of a handful of prisoners for whom I think it's important on a gut level..
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:32 PM
Dec 2015

to law enforcement and a certain law-and-order-type of private citizen that he die in jail. The other that comes to mind is Mumia Abu Jamal. Neither will ever be released or pardoned because it would have serious backlash for the party and President responsible. He may be a political prisoner (I believe he is) but that will never be formally acknowledged.

He's there until the day he stops breathing unless someone finds evidence that formally acquits him of those murders.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
8. There's no good reason. A couple of bad ones I can imagine are
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:09 PM
Dec 2015

1) The uranium interests that Dick Wilson was serving are powerful and well connected.

2) The President fears that a pardon would alienate the FBI, and feels that he needs the FBI to protect the nation, himself and his family.

3) An official admission that Peltier justly deserves immediate release opens the government up to court action against it, not just for damages due Leonard for nearly 40 years of wrongful imprisonment, but the issues of the US gov's illegal abrogation of the 1868 treaty, who actually owns the Black Hills and South Dakota, and the sketchy legal basis of claims of land ownership by any non-natives anywhere in the U.S.

4) The repugs will pitch a fit and try to make political hay if Prez O. pardons Leonard.

But 1) I've never seen anything that ties the President to those uranium interests in any close way. 2) Any good people in the Feds who know anything at all about the case know Peltier is innocent, the bad ones aren't kindly disposed toward the president anyway, and pretending the bad ones have a legit point just demoralizes the good ones. 3) The gov can cross the bridge of a civil suit by Leonard when they come to it. They've managed to deny justice for all these decades, fending off a civil suit shouldn't be too difficut for them. Or even paying damages to him wouldn't hurt them. Even lowly cities do it all the time for police brutality and wrongful death lawsuits. The federal gov can afford it. 4) The repugs will pitch a fit and attempt to make political hay about any issue or non-issue, any time, all the time, regardless. Timing the pardon right could catch the repugs mid-outrage about something else, leaving them unable to figure out whether to piss or go blind. Hit them with a bunch of things like this at the same time, and they'll go into outrage overload.

The Natives aren't a large voting bloc, but they're a Dem constituency. It's hard to believe that the Prez didn't think that there would be some good things he could accomplish when he was first running for office, a reason for him to want to be President. He's been blocked by repugs on anything that requires their involvement. But doing this one right thing doesn't require any repug cooperation. And millions of people worldwide would celebrate if he would just do the right thing.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
9. I hope he does it just before leaving office.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:49 PM
Dec 2015

Leonard deserves it and it would be a sock in the eye repressive repugs.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
10. I think there's no wrong time to free him, but the sooner the better.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:19 PM
Dec 2015

You're right. He deserves it.

Thanks for the o.p.. recced.

madville

(7,410 posts)
11. The FBI would throw a fit
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:32 PM
Dec 2015

Just don't see a person convicted of killing two FBI agents being pardoned. Plus wasn't he involved with other assaults on law enforcement across the country while on the run? Could those states still prosecute him if the federal system turns him loose?

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