Here's what I just heard from the Right about Obama.

[leftyladyfrommo]

Obama personally paid for a plane and went to the funerals of the San Bernardino shooters. Of course it wasn't on US news but it was on German and somewhere else and on the internet.

Of course that followed a dialogue about how he didn't go personally to the Benghazi finerals.

Some days I could just sit and cry. I really have lost any hope that sanity will survive.

I don't know how Obama stands it.

[irisblue]

1. so the pictures of him at Dover when the Benghazi dead arrived are fake?

Your source is foolish.

[leftyladyfrommo]

3. My source is stupid.

The Bible Belt is full of people like this. They will believe absolutely anything bad about Obama.

And it goes like wildfire.

[irisblue]

5. I didn't want to be rude in case it is someone you dearly love

[leftyladyfrommo]

10. After today I don't think I even like him.

I wonder where Obama really was yesterday? I think he did go to San Bernardino to talk with families there. I think I read that he spent over 3 hours with them.

I don't think he snuck off to go to the shooter's funerals.

[Tanuki]

21. President Obama met with the victim's families on Friday the 18th,

and the shooters were buried on Tuesday the 15th, while he was still in Washington.
http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-san-bernardino-shooters-buried-quiet-funeral-following-003855115.html;_ylt=A0LEVj7Ju3ZW8VAABz0nnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--

[leftyladyfrommo]

22. Don't confuse the issue with facts.

He snuck away on a private plane he paid for himself. Like no one would have noticed.

These people make me crazy. Some days I can just ignore it and sometimes I just can't.

[Hortensis]

2. Next version will be taxpayer dollars paid for the plane,

of course.

As for sanity, whoever said, "and some people can be fooled all the time" was talking about these people -- the ones who insist on it. I don't remember what Marcus Aurelius said on the subject 2000 years ago. Nothing new here. They are always with us.

Societies do well when they keep them in check, and all hell breaks loose when they get control of the leash. Speaking of which, they are trying to choose our next leader right now.

[leftyladyfrommo]

4. I know.

It scares me to death.

I know what these people are like. I live with them.

[Hortensis]

6. Me too. Me too. Me too.

[Wounded Bear]

11. At least one version attributed to Linclon, I believe...

"You can fool some of the people all of the time,
and all of the people some of the time,
but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

That's at least what I recall.

I'm beginning to think the last part of that may not be true.

[Hortensis]

12. I'm actually pretty sure that last part is true.

Some people have an inborn desire for knowledge and understanding, the accumulation of which makes them harder to fool, plus a respect for truth and the courage to face it that foil attempts to sway them by emotion.

This isn't rare. Many of us have these qualities to varying degrees, even if only some are strong in them. Unfortunately, fear and insecurity lessen them in many, and encourage a wish for a strong leader to take charge, which is why authoritarian leaders and manipulators like much of the right-wing media are constantly encouraging fear - and trying lowering standards of what is considered appropriate responses to events.

We need a national revolt not to the barn-burning we're seeing but to stout-heartedness in rejection of this fostered gutlessness.

[leftyladyfrommo]

7. Why are so many Americans so uneducated?

What is so wrong with our schools that we are turning out people that know so little and who will believe anything they hear.

Is this what happens when you do away with the arts?

[tabasco]

8. That's the main problem right there.

The same kind of gullible people thought the Nazis would "make Germany great again." Instead, they left the country in ruins with a blackened reputation from enormous crimes against humanity.

Humans are not born with critical thinking skills. They must be taught and learned. It's not happening in the U.S.

[leftyladyfrommo]

9. I see it on these boards all the time.

Especially about religion. People make the most outrageous claims. We have some excellent biblical scholars in this country. They read and speak 13 languages. They spend their whole lives studying early Christianity. You can read their books. They're at the library or you can order them online. But it's painfully obvious no one does.

Christopher Hitchens is not a credible source on theology. But he wrote what people wanted to hear. So people love him.

I get so upset sometimes.

[MisterP]

13. it's a closed-discourse thing--it's how cults (and, in fact, the two sets of Paris shooters) work

isolate someone from the outside world and they'll kill hundreds for some cliche: the US media overall even counts (ironically giving credence to the whole "you have to go to the German media to learn what's REALLY happening in Murka"

it's an issue of ideology as much as of critical thinking--it accords with their worldview so it's perfectly reasonable to them

[leftyladyfrommo]

14. Well, and they will go to any length to badmouth Obama.

I get so tired of it. The guy's not perfect but he's the best president we've had in a long time.

[Bluenorthwest]

17. The arts are certainly part of it, and they are hated, even on DU people shimmer with hate for

cultural expression and creative arts. This is because they are fearful of the challenges which imagination might present.

[leftyladyfrommo]

19. I practice Zen and you know when you get

into the more esoteric Buddhist philosophy they teach that everything we perceive is just illusion.

I wonder how well that would go across?

[Old Union Guy]

15. You know the drill ...

[rsexaminer]

16. The right...

plays a game of madlibs with blaming Obama...."Obama paid for a 'plane'" haha

[leftyladyfrommo]

18. And snuck away to go to the funeral of 2 terrorists.

In his spare time.

Do these people do drugs? Do you think? Maybe they go home at night and do LSD. No. That wouldn't explain it.

Lobotomy?

I try not to be mean but these people make me crazy.

[leftyladyfrommo]

20. I'm still mad about this guy but getting over it.

But I just happened to remember something else he said a while ago.

He claimed he never paid any attention to the news and was only interested in hearing that the president had been been killed by an assassin. I just blew it off at the time thinking I had just misheard him.

I think he's someone to just stay away from because I don't think his elevator goes all the way to the top.