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It didn't dawn on me that all the Republicans on stage the other night are Chicken Hawks. (Original Post) trumad Dec 2015 OP
this ... napkinz Dec 2015 #1
Yeah---saw that on FB which is when it hit me. trumad Dec 2015 #2
all talking up war war war....and not a one served. spanone Dec 2015 #3
Except for Rand Paul. I don't think he's a hawk. mainer Dec 2015 #4
And Carly. KamaAina Dec 2015 #6
Served with many women in the military. trumad Dec 2015 #8
But unlike the others, she didn't avoid the draft. KamaAina Dec 2015 #10
To be fair--- trumad Dec 2015 #11
Problem is if he were elected the teaparty would force him to kill Muslims in that if randys1 Dec 2015 #7
You expected more from the Merchants of Fear? Kalidurga Dec 2015 #5
That was the first thing that struck me when they all started cheerleading for war. world wide wally Dec 2015 #9
It's Been A Prereq Since The 80's ProfessorGAC Dec 2015 #13
I've often wondered how long it will be before louis-t Dec 2015 #14
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2015 #12
I understand that there is a large amount of citizens who never served in the Military. trumad Dec 2015 #15
Right. H2O Man Dec 2015 #16
I respect those who avoided service as a matter of conscience pinboy3niner Dec 2015 #17
Exactly. H2O Man Dec 2015 #18
Not the Donald. He's a war hero, just ask him! Scuba Dec 2015 #19
He looks kinda like a young Gary Busey in that pic, Mc Mike Dec 2015 #22
Except Paul or Graham Reter Dec 2015 #20
Like Pat Robertson getting off the Troop Transpo, they're "Saving Themselves" for something greater. Octafish Dec 2015 #21
If anybody is interested in what a Republican JEB Dec 2015 #23

spanone

(135,832 posts)
3. all talking up war war war....and not a one served.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:56 PM
Dec 2015

let the chickenhawks lead the fight.....more like chickenshits

mainer

(12,022 posts)
4. Except for Rand Paul. I don't think he's a hawk.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:56 PM
Dec 2015

He pretty much wants us to stay out of foreign wars.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
11. To be fair---
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:12 PM
Dec 2015

Most of the others were to young for the draft. They could have volunteered though.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
7. Problem is if he were elected the teaparty would force him to kill Muslims in that if
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:58 PM
Dec 2015

he didnt they wouldnt reelect him.

Make no mistake, the GOP wants to start a war and kill millions of Brown folk.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
9. That was the first thing that struck me when they all started cheerleading for war.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:59 PM
Dec 2015

I think it's a new prerequisite for Republican politicians.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
13. It's Been A Prereq Since The 80's
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:26 PM
Dec 2015

That's when Reagan started blustering about the "Evil Empire" and his hagiographers declared he won the cold war, when the real winners of the cold war were Lech Walesa and Ted Turner.

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
14. I've often wondered how long it will be before
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:28 PM
Dec 2015

the prerequisite is firing your gun in the air like Saddam Hussein before any speech.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
12. Recommended.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:17 PM
Dec 2015

This is a very important point. I suspect that the public is so accustomed to this chichen-hawk dynamic, that they don't consciously think of it these days. Therefore, it is essential that people remind them. Frequently.

Thanks for this OP!

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
15. I understand that there is a large amount of citizens who never served in the Military.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:29 PM
Dec 2015

I have never disparaged those who have not.

I do disparage those who yell let's go to war ----24x7---but have never served in the military.

That has always bothered me in a big way.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
16. Right.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:33 PM
Dec 2015

I definitely agree with you on this.

I was "of age" during the Vietnam War. I would have refused to serve then, because I knew the war was immoral. (After the war ended, some recruiters attempted me to join to be part of the boxing team. I did give that serious consideration. But Rubin advised me to enter college instead. Plus, they insisted that I'd have to cut my hair, which would have violated my religious beliefs.)

I do not judge anyone as "better" or "worse," based upon if they were in the military. But I could puke when shitheads like Dick Cheney et al are pro-war.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
17. I respect those who avoided service as a matter of conscience
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:40 PM
Dec 2015

It's the bellicosity of the the chickenhawks that makes me want to puke.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
18. Exactly.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:42 PM
Dec 2015

I have no difficulty in viewing Muhammad Ali as a "hero," just as I do the many family members and friends who served.

But the chicken hawks? They are very low, indeed.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
19. Not the Donald. He's a war hero, just ask him!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:53 PM
Dec 2015


http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-likens-military-school-to-military-service

Donald Trump Likens Military School He Was Forced to Attend to Serving in the Actual Military

Donald Trump might not be an actual veteran, but the Republican presidential candidate claims he "always felt that I was in the military," thanks to his time at a military-themed boarding school.

In an interview for the forthcoming biography Never Enough, the man who has upended the 2016 presidential race talked in typically blunt terms about how his high school years spent at New York Military Academy provided him with "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military," according to quotes provided to The New York Times.

Trump, 69, entered the school located near West Point Military Academy in 1959 in the eighth grade at the insistence of his parents because of his poor behavior back home in Queens, and remained there through high school.

Later, the burgeoning real estate mogul received multiple deferments during the Vietnam War followed by a high draft number, and told biographer Michael Mr. D'Antonio that even though he never officially served, his training at the school was in keeping with the rigors of military life.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
22. He looks kinda like a young Gary Busey in that pic,
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:31 PM
Dec 2015

Too bad he's a quarter as civil, and an eighth as sane as Busey.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
20. Except Paul or Graham
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:04 PM
Dec 2015

Paul isn't a hawk at all. Graham is big-time, but not a chickenhawk. Like McCain, he served. Cruz doesn't want a no-fly zone, so he's less hawkish than Hillary.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
21. Like Pat Robertson getting off the Troop Transpo, they're "Saving Themselves" for something greater.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:11 PM
Dec 2015

Like that big pay day in the MIC.

http://www.schlatter.org/liquor_officer.htm

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