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Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:41 AM Dec 2015

Polls Suggest Trump Will Win Between 8 Percent And 64 Percent Of The Vote

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/polls-suggest-trump-will-win-between-8-percent-and-64-percent-of-the-vote/

In 2007, I woke up every morning — alarm set with a 1980s or ’90s TV show theme song — opened my computer and searched the term “poll” on Google. I did this through the spring, summer, fall and winter. And when I did, I saw the same person leading the Republican presidential contest: Rudy Giuliani. I thought Giuliani had a great chance of winning the nomination. You see, no Republican who had led for so long had ever lost the nomination: Ronald Reagan in 1980, George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996 and George W. Bush in 2000 — they all easily won.

Welp.



Giuliani, of course, didn’t come close to winning. Eight years ago, I didn’t know what I know now: Although Giuliani led the field, he was polling at only around 30 percent in the last couple of months of 2007, while all the previous nominees above were polling at about 40 percent or higher. That distinction is lost when you’re just looking at whether someone is a front-runner or not, and it’s why it’s a mistake to make too much of binary outcomes in small data sets. Beware pundits proffering “no candidate has ever lost when …” rules.

It’s better to look at a continuous variable, such as how well polling in the past has predicted the eventual vote percentages of the candidates. If I had done that in 2008, I would have known that polls even at this stage in a primary campaign — a couple of months before the voting starts — still have a wide predictive margin of error compared with the final national outcome.

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Polls Suggest Trump Will Win Between 8 Percent And 64 Percent Of The Vote (Original Post) Stuckinthebush Dec 2015 OP
I sadly predict... Javaman Dec 2015 #1
Indeed, a sad prediction Stuckinthebush Dec 2015 #2
Only if the shooters are Muslim. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2015 #3
Good point. Javaman Dec 2015 #4
Well that narrows it down. nt B2G Dec 2015 #5

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
1. I sadly predict...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:02 AM
Dec 2015

if there is another gun massacre about 3 weeks before the general election and trump is the repuke candidate, he will win.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
3. Only if the shooters are Muslim.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:24 AM
Dec 2015

White US citizen snaps and goes on a killing spree? nothing to see here, this is just one of those unfortunate things! A Muslim does it? Terrorism! Close the borders!

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