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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChris Christie said he would order a Russian plane shot down.
Chris Christie said he would order a Russian plane shot down for violating an American no fly zone in Syria.
Is he insane?
Human101948
(3,457 posts)and he has to top the other clowns in the Repulbican circus to get any attention.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)!
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Thank you in advance.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)are referring to.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Thank you in advance.
Cirque du So-What
(25,949 posts)to laugh at the camel toe? Because I did. Spontaneously. I don't always LOL when I type it, but this time it was for real. Yes indeed.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I couldn't give a bean about his weight, but that camel toe has got to go.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)He has screamed at people, called them idiots, and bullied many to distract from his corrupt and dismal reign. He does not deserve courtesy.
See Christie Crime Digest--
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026612563
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)But still I never mentioned his size and I can not be responsible for the inferences others draw,
trof
(54,256 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)!
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)since she favors a 'no fly zone' over northern Syria.
Would she order the shootdown of Russia jets that violated such a 'no fly zone'...
JI7
(89,254 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)They are laughable! And delusional. Can you imagine any of these fools being in charge of foreign policy? We'd be mired in the thick of WWIII within weeks.
spanone
(135,851 posts)sick fuck. nuclear warfare is a joke to these clowns.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Otherwise, they wouldn't counsel it so freaking much.
Gen. Lyman Lemnitzer and CIA chief Allen Dulles even counseled President Kennedy in summer 1961 that the best time for attack was "sometime in the fall of 1963," ensuring the nation's maximum nuclear superiority over the Soviet Union. That way there wouldn't be any question as to the end of communism.
Did the U.S. Military Plan a Nuclear First Strike for 1963?
Recently declassified information shows that the military presented President Kennedy with a plan for a surprise nuclear attack on the Soviet Union in the early 1960s.
James K. Galbraith and Heather A. Purcell
The American Prospect | September 21, 1994
During the early 1960s the intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) introduced the world to the possibility of instant total war. Thirty years later, no nation has yet fired any nuclear missile at a real target. Orthodox history holds that a succession of defensive nuclear doctrines and strategies -- from "massive retaliation" to "mutual assured destruction" -- worked, almost seamlessly, to deter Soviet aggression against the United States and to prevent the use of nuclear weapons.
The possibility of U.S. aggression in nuclear conflict is seldom considered. And why should it be? Virtually nothing in the public record suggests that high U.S. authorities ever contemplated a first strike against the Soviet Union, except in response to a Soviet invasion of Western Europe, or that they doubted the deterrent power of Soviet nuclear forces. The main documented exception was the Air Force Chief of Staff in the early 1960s, Curtis LeMay, a seemingly idiosyncratic case.
But beginning in 1957 the U.S. military did prepare plans for a preemptive nuclear strike against the U.S.S.R., based on our growing lead in land-based missiles. And top military and intelligence leaders presented an assessment of those plans to President John F. Kennedy in July of 1961. At that time, some high Air Force and CIA leaders apparently believed that a window of outright ballistic missile superiority, perhaps sufficient for a successful first strike, would be open in late 1963.
The document reproduced opposite is published here for the first time. It describes a meeting of the National Security Council on July 20, 1961. At that meeting, the document shows, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the director of the CIA, and others presented plans for a surprise attack. They answered some questions from Kennedy about timing and effects, and promised further information. The meeting recessed under a presidential injunction of secrecy that has not been broken until now.
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http://prospect.org/article/did-us-military-plan-nuclear-first-strike-1963
Makes one see where they got the idea for "Better Dead than Red."
The Real Eisenhower: Planning to Win Nuclear War
by Ira Chernus
Common Dreams
March 18, 2008
Peace activists love to quote Dwight Eisenhower. The iconic Republican war hero spoke so eloquently about the dangers of war and the need for disarmament. He makes a terrific poster-boy for peace. But after years of research and writing three books on Ike, I think it's time to see the real Eisenhower stand up. The president who planned to fight and win a nuclear war, saying "he would rather be atomized than communized," reminds us how dangerous the cold war era really was, how much our leaders will put us all at risk in the name of "national security," and how easily they can mask their intentions behind benign images.
From first to last, Eisenhower was a confirmed cold warrior. Years before he became president, while he was publicly promoting cooperation with the Soviet Union, he wrote in his diary: "Russia is definitely out to communize the world....Now we face a battle to extinction." On the home front, he warned that liberal Democrats were leading the U.S. "toward total socialism."
SNIP
For Eisenhower, the point of amassing a huge nuclear arsenal was not to deter war but to win it. This was enshrined as official policy in NSC 5810/1: "The United States must make clear its determination to prevail if general war occurs." The only meaningful war aim, he told the NSC, was "to achieve a victory." He described his war plan as "Hit the guy fast with all you've got if he jumps on you"; "hit 'em ... with everything in the bucket."
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Eisenhower assumed that a post-holocaust America would be a totalitarian state, ruled by martial law. But he worried about (among other things) what would happen to the credit structure of the country and how to print and sell war bonds to finance the next war if Washington were destroyed. At one NSC meeting he complained that if the President and the Vice President were "knocked off," the "damnable" law of succession would result in the Democrats (he called them "the other team" taking the White House. "To assure against that happening, the President thought the Vice President should be put in cotton batting."
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And we ignore it at our peril, because it was a policy that put anticommunist ideology above human life, made by a man who would "push whole stack of chips into the pot" and "hit 'em ... with everything in the bucket"; who would "shoot your enemy before he shoots you"; who believed that the U.S. could "pick itself up from the floor" and win a nuclear war, even though "everybody is going crazy," as long as "only" 25 or 30 American cities got "shellacked" and nobody got too "hysterical."
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http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/18/7742
Too bad there might not be many Americans around after hitting them with "everything in the bucket," but, hey! As Eisenhower and crazy Gen. Powers said, even if only one American survives and no Russians, "We win!"
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Saying you'll end a war is one thing. Threatening to provoke fricking war is beyond reckless.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Lots of fiber in Russian planes I hear
Yavin4
(35,443 posts)Could've been worse.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)one of the most dangerous people running. and what's worse is that he has an ability to convince some that he is a rational, reasonable person. makes it even scarier.
malaise
(269,091 posts)is the USA
Reter
(2,188 posts)He said if you are for WWIII, you now have your candidate, lol!
leveymg
(36,418 posts)a military conflict with Russia and escalate to nuclear exchange believing she can "win" WW3 at any cost.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)It was even funnier because of the wayhe said it, and he was standing right by Christie.
Reter
(2,188 posts)Nice to see it being mentioned, because that is a real illegal scandal.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)Now I have Pepsi all over my screen.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)tavernier
(12,393 posts)And in reality, I doubt he would. But Trump or Cruz... Different story.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I hope he never gets anywhere near the Oval Office.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)bring us the end, without a doubt.
JI7
(89,254 posts)Vinca
(50,285 posts)You can see the cellulite through the tightie whities. AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH.