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LiberalArkie

(15,721 posts)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:44 PM Dec 2015

Lawmakers Have Snuck CISA Into a Bill That Is Guaranteed to Become a Law

By JASON COBBLER

To anyone who has protested the sweeping, vague, and privacy-killing iterations of the Cybersecurity Information Sharing and Protection Act or the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act over the last several years, sorry, lawmakers have heard you, and they have ignored you.

That sounds bleak, but lawmakers have stripped the very bad CISA bill of almost all of its privacy protections and have inserted the full text of it into a bill that is essentially guaranteed to be passed and will certainly not be vetoed by President Obama.

CISA allows private companies to pass your personal information and online goings-on to the federal government and local law enforcement if it suspects a "cybersecurity threat," a term so broadly defined that it can apply to "anomalous patterns of communication" and can be used to gather information about just about any crime, cyber or not.

The Senate passed a version of CISA earlier this fall, but now a more invasive version of it (renamed the Cybersecurity Act of 2015) has been inserted into an extremely important budget bill.


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Lawmakers Have Snuck CISA Into a Bill That Is Guaranteed to Become a Law (Original Post) LiberalArkie Dec 2015 OP
Yay, Greenwald! joshcryer Dec 2015 #1
Sorry Incorrect. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #2
Greenwald did a great job exposing us cyberspying on its own citizens. joshcryer Dec 2015 #6
How is Greenwald at all relevant? leveymg Dec 2015 #3
Well, he was only at the forefront of this issue. joshcryer Dec 2015 #7
I'm sorry, it seemed you were being snide and scapegoating there. leveymg Dec 2015 #10
surely the president would veto this if it's odious lol nt msongs Dec 2015 #4
Given that Obama has never had his own budget passed... joshcryer Dec 2015 #9
Here are the votes on the senate bill back in October 2015 LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #5
Got to love election year no votes. joshcryer Dec 2015 #8
Thank you for this vote rundown! l.o.o.s.e.e-2 Dec 2015 #13
I wonder if the R's in the Nay list can be considered almost good guys? LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #15
Thanks for posting, LiberalArkie. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #18
Future Presidents will all be benevolent FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #11
LOL joshcryer Dec 2015 #12
"unless you complain about CISA, and then we'll get a Republican and it'll be all! your! fault!" MisterP Dec 2015 #16
Well. The name makes it sound like a good thing. Which is the important thing. Octafish Dec 2015 #14
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #17
Of course they did. blackspade Dec 2015 #19

LiberalArkie

(15,721 posts)
2. Sorry Incorrect.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:59 PM
Dec 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protection_Act

The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA H.R. 3523 (112th Congress), H.R. 624 (113th Congress), H.R. 234 (114th Congress)) is a proposed law in the United States which would allow for the sharing of Internet traffic information between the U.S. government and technology and manufacturing companies. The stated aim of the bill is to help the U.S. government investigate cyber threats and ensure the security of networks against cyberattacks.[1]

Introduced in the House as H.R. 3523 by Mike Rogers (R-MI) on November 30, 2011


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden

Sorry Snowden did not come into play until 2013

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
6. Greenwald did a great job exposing us cyberspying on its own citizens.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:09 PM
Dec 2015

His efforts are to be applauded, and lauded. His book deals, and movies winning all those awards, they even got, what was it, the Pulitzer prize for all the hard hitting reporting! The people really did win on this one!

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
7. Well, he was only at the forefront of this issue.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:10 PM
Dec 2015

Who would've thought a media campaign to make loads of money writing a book would bring about amazing reforms in the spying on US citizens? Incredible work by everyone involved. Pulitzer prize well earned.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
9. Given that Obama has never had his own budget passed...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:13 PM
Dec 2015

...he'll sign it. Would it be that he vetoed and forced a government shut down in an election year.

LiberalArkie

(15,721 posts)
5. Here are the votes on the senate bill back in October 2015
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:07 PM
Dec 2015

YEAs ---74
Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Boxer (D-CA)
Burr (R-NC)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Capito (R-WV)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Cassidy (R-LA)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Cotton (R-AR)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Enzi (R-WY)
Ernst (R-IA)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fischer (R-NE)
Flake (R-AZ)
Gardner (R-CO)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Hirono (D-HI)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Kirk (R-IL)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Lankford (R-OK)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Moran (R-KS)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Perdue (R-GA)
Peters (D-MI)
Portman (R-OH)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rounds (R-SD)
Sasse (R-NE)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Scott (R-SC)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Shelby (R-AL)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Thune (R-SD)
Tillis (R-NC)
Toomey (R-PA)
Warner (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)

NAYs ---21
Baldwin (D-WI)
Booker (D-NJ)
Brown (D-OH)
Cardin (D-MD)
Coons (D-DE)
Crapo (R-ID)
Daines (R-MT)
Franken (D-MN)
Heller (R-NV)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lee (R-UT)
Markey (D-MA)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Risch (R-ID)
Sanders (I-VT)
Sullivan (R-AK)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-NM)
Warren (D-MA)
Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 5
Cruz (R-TX)
Graham (R-SC)
Paul (R-KY)
Rubio (R-FL)
Vitter (R-LA)

 

l.o.o.s.e.e-2

(53 posts)
13. Thank you for this vote rundown!
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:42 PM
Dec 2015

I was trying to figure out the absence of Paul's vote; wish to add I searched/learned he offered an amendment (co-spondored with Wyden) regarding limiting the blanket immunity of companies. Roll call vote shot it down 32-65

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
11. Future Presidents will all be benevolent
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:16 PM
Dec 2015

and none will ever dare to use the broad powers granted in this legislation.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
14. Well. The name makes it sound like a good thing. Which is the important thing.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:07 PM
Dec 2015


Reality is so overrated these days.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
19. Of course they did.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:46 PM
Dec 2015

Because the NSA doesn't want to miss out on its stock of naked pictures and soap opera goings on of people that they know.

Another law in search of a problem.

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