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firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:46 AM Dec 2015

Trump Sounded Like a Democrat for a Second Last Night

He criticized spending billions on war overseas and said he should be spending that money to build our infrastructure at home.

I think it's worth noting that Trump is running far more as a populist than he is a right-winger. Frankly, I don't think he believes in much of anything at all, and will say anything at all to get elected. If he were to win the nomination he would be absolutely shameless in abandoning right-wing talking points and running toward the middle.

Could that potentially make him a dangerous GE opponent?

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earthside

(6,960 posts)
4. Trump was against the Bush-Cheney Iraq war ...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:17 AM
Dec 2015

... he said that in the previous debate.

So, he's got a better track record on this issue than Mrs. Clinton.

One of my meandering political hypothesis is that Trump could indeed defeat Clinton; no doubt he would wipe the floor with her in a presidential debate. Two multimillionaires debating, with Clinton's nose in the air 'know it all' attitude will be easy pickings for the populist rhetoric of Trump.

I can't stand Trump, but he has a way of talking in a manner that average people can relate to ... he's a phony, in my estimation, but I think sometimes DU participants don't get that after eight years of Obama, people are going to want some change. Sander represents real change; Clinton stands for an Obama third term; Trump, if he is nominated, is the radical change agent.

brush

(53,794 posts)
9. Guess you didn't see Hillary destroying one repug after another . . .
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:35 AM
Dec 2015

for 11 hours as they tried and failed to break her during the last Benghazi hearing.

She was polished, extremely knowledgeable on foreign policy and unflappable.

Sorry, but she would run circles around Trump and his default, and only mode — bluster.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. Would you vote for Trump over Hillary?
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:41 AM
Dec 2015

Because your gushing praise of his rhetorical abilities and touting of his superiority to Clinton certainly implies that.

Only Trump's stans think "no doubt he would wipe the floor" with Clinton.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
12. I'm reserving judgement and prognostications ...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:57 AM
Dec 2015

... about how I will vote in the 2016 general election for President of the United States.

I fully expect Sen. Sanders to be the nominee of the Democratic Party.

Hillary Clinton is not a good debater ... so, I'm trying to not let my distaste for Trump and Clinton affect how I view them as rhetorical combatants.

By the way, I also think that Sen. Sanders has the moxie to be much more effective against Trump; having the 'common touch' is how to counter Trump (or any of the Repuglican candidates, for that matter).

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. I doubt any real Sanders supporters would consider voting for Trump
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:59 AM
Dec 2015

over Clinton. Maybe some bored over privileged dudebros, but not anyone who is liberal/progressive.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. What you say about the debate might be worth Hillary team considering
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:00 PM
Dec 2015

She is a lot smarter than he is. But America is very anti-intellectual.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
5. Well, then there's this. He's clearly mentally ill.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:22 AM
Dec 2015

Also, he has the emotional maturity of a ten year old boy. THAT'S what makes him dangerous.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
7. That's the trouble with an entitled candidate who arrives unyoked by major donors...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:26 AM
Dec 2015

...and not committed even to staying in the race. S/he may not stick to a preferred script.

Trump is perfectly capable of saying the right thing by accident, and if he were really running for president and actually won, there is a small chance of his occasionally doing the right thing, too, if reverse psychology is applied in time to make him double down rather than flip-flop.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
8. I would take him ANY day over the rest of the conbots
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:32 AM
Dec 2015

IF it were isolated to domestic policy.

Every other candidate on that stage will 100 percent advance the republican agenda domestically as a willing and gleeful tool.

He will do his own thing, admittedly that could be anything, but he won't be a functioning tool of the republican party.

UNFORTUNATELY, POTUS is commander in chief and directs foreign policy and relations, and given his tendencies and personality you can't even begin to risk that ...

I do agree he would turn to the middle in the general - it will come down to whether the people of this country are that stupid or not, which sadly could break either way.

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