BREAKING: GOP planning for a brokered convention... (Source: MSNBC MTP Daily)

[ChisolmTrailDem]

What would this mean? The Return of RMoney? tRump going 3rd party?

Discuss.

[edhopper]

1. With Trump

they are truly Borked.

[hifiguy]

7. Beat me to it.

[roguevalley]

54. expect a cat fight of majestic proportions as the establishment works overtime

to deny him the bid. I will be watching the entire cluster fuck this time. It's going to be epic. Expect shooting. Seriously.

[Xipe Totec]

2. Best spoonerism ever. nt

[KamaAina]

3. Indeed.

I have it on good authority that Robert Bork's son Charles tortured dogs while at Yale.

[spanone]

4. trump will just buy the delegates he needs...he's really, really rich.

if the gop thinks trump will win them the election, they will be BFFE

[jberryhill]

5. They'll bork it for sure

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bork

bork ? - third-person singular simple present borks, present participle borking, simple past and past participle borked

To misconfigure, especially a computer or other complex device.
To break or damage.

[Renew Deal]

6. Where did you hear this?

[jberryhill]

12. I heard Merle Haggard said it on the radio

[yardwork]

34. Thread win.

[pintobean]

43. Ah... memories

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002184981

[jberryhill]

44. Heck, this happened THIS WEEK

http://bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/merle-haggard-reassures-fans-during-bout-with-pneumonia

Merle Haggard reassures fans during bout with pneumonia



He's pretty much making a career out of not being dead.

[malaise]

49. Most excellent

[spanone]

14. chuck todd on m$nbc just said they were planning for it....

i think that's how he put it.

[Renew Deal]

15. Ahhhh

They probably plan for a lot of different things.

[jberryhill]

38. Yeah, and then he woke up too

Trump's gonna be yer boy, Chuck. Don't say any words you'll have to eat next year.

[spanone]

39. he was thrilled!!!

[napi21]

52. I thought so too, but there was a guest on Chris M's show who said beginning jan.

some very wealthy guys are going to get together and throw everything they can find at Trump to get rid of him, once and for all. Chris tried to get more out of him and asked who they are and why they don't do it now? All he would say is now is not the right time, and they want to remain anonymous.

I'm not sure, but I'd bet Trump has dealt with lots of rich men trying to take him down so just maybe they'll FAIL!

[jberryhill]

8. Looks like you mis-spelled "bonkers"

[enough]

9. With luck, it will mean they all get Borked, but it does seem a bit early to be

planning for it.

[Warpy]

10. I love your typo in the subject line. Please leave it

because it's equally true with "brokered."

It might be the return of Mittens, but i doubt it, he's still coated with the stench of "loser." They could give their public Scott Walker, Kasich, or even some unknown outside the field of morons presently hooting at each other in their non debates. What it's likely to mean are fistfights on the floor as once again the fundies are told to sit down, shut up, and take what they're given. It's also likely to mean the party will fracture apart and become a regional rather than national party.

As for Trump, who knows? If he doesn't run third party or indie, every fringe nutcase on the right will write him in.

[malaise]

47. Someone is going to get hurt and seriously

Mark my word

[El Supremo]

11. Just as long as they bork Trump. n/m

[Jerry442]

31. Borked Trump. Mmmm-mmm. NT

[morningfog]

13. Link? Source? I want it to be true.

[mac56]

20. Here

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-preparing-for-contested-convention/2015/12/10/d72574bc-9f73-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html

[HassleCat]

16. Opportunity for dark horse

A brokered convention is an opportunity for somebody from outside the current field to step up and steal the show. The more votes they hold without a winner, the more likely it becomes. Yes, Romney is a good possibility. If Trump is denied the nomination, he could very well mount a third party effort. It would be consistent with what we have seen of his ego.

[VanillaRhapsody]

18. Or John McCain

[safeinOhio]

24. Or Paul Ryan

hates his new job.

[COLGATE4]

32. Or for a dark horse's ass...

[Bucky]

35. I'm pretty sure a brokered convention, dominated by insiders, would rip apart the GOP

I'm not sure a brokered convention is even remotely possible anymore. The process is designed to produce a winner by late March. Once it's down to Rubio-Trump or... God save the Republic.... Cruz-Trump, they'll have their Hobson's choice. No way Trump gets nominated (and running against Trump is the only way Cruz gets nominated).

It'll be a fucked year to be a Republican, certainly. But, Lordy, it's not looking good for America when one of our two parties implodes this way.

[edhopper]

17. It's from the W Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-preparing-for-contested-convention/2015/12/10/d72574bc-9f73-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html

[Agschmid]

19. Romney Redux.

[Voice for Peace]

25. Yup. I think they are just waiting till

they can bring Mitt back in.

[hifiguy]

28. That well could be. Nothing about that collection of lunatics

could surprise me anymore. OTOH, Trumpolini may well have the nomination sewed up by the convention.

[SheilaT]

21. Considering that not a single primary or caucus has been held yet,

it's far too early to be thinking about this. Plus, with the Republicans, most of theirs are Winner Take All, so they tend to know their nominee much earlier in the process than the Democrats do, since we award delegates proportionally in all the primaries.

I feel quite confident in predicting that if they do have a brokered convention, the nominee will not be Romney. Probably Cruz or Rubio, but I'm just guessing there.

[Vinca]

22. If this is true, I bet Trump runs as a third party candidate, splits the right wing vote

and Democrats win 50 states.

[C_U_L8R]

23. Please be an open-carry convention

Nothing like a rootin' tootin' mob of pistol packing dumbass right wingers
trying to hold a convention.

Gonna go invest in popcorn stock while the gettin's good.

[yardwork]

36. Laugh out loud.

[grasswire]

51. and maybe the convention hall will be circular

oh my lord....thanks for the laugh

[mrdmk]

55. That would be a real test on how much they support gun rights, just saying here n/t

[MrWendel]

26. Must.See.T.V.

[MADem]

27. The party will pick .... Jeb!

Or maybe Rubio.

Or maybe the compromise candidate of the season--Kasich.

[Trajan]

29. Trump had already indicated he will run Independent

If they deny what will be his huge success in the Primary Trail ...

This is all so juicy and delicious - how are ALL those Trump supporters gonna feel when the party apparatchiks toss him over the gunwales, and their forlorn racist hopes are dashed ...

They are NOT going to be happy ... Many have already said they WILL vote third party ...

Oh yes ... Oh yes, Hell yes ... Let it be so ...

They are so fucked ...

[msrizzo]

30. Won't make too much difference

Unless they start standing up to him now how are they going to do it in a convention filled with Trump delegates? I don't think they can do it.

[gratuitous]

33. What would it mean?

The quadrennial wet dream of political junkies. It doesn't happen anymore, but they'd all like to see a 1924 situation up close and personal.

[yardwork]

37. All I can say is if Bill Clinton did this, he is a genius.

[Samantha]

58. Bill Clinton did engineer this (IMHO) but he underestimated the number of crazies

who would embrace Trump, and he neglected to factor in the impact of a significant terror attack (France).

Personally, I have thought all along that when that infamous conversation between the two happened, Bill could think of nothing that would work more to Hillary's advantage than a challenge by Trump. He was nicknamed "The Natural" because it just so fits his work behind the political curtains. These times are not those times, however, and this roll of the dice by Bill Clinton may just undue everyone's expectations of the 2016 outcome.

The Republican party is boxed in by the the knowledge that if they allow Trump to simply win, the downturn will be a massive loss down-ticket to the party itself as well as the loss of the Oval Office. But if an intervention is attempted and Trump feels he has been robbed and does go so far as to run Independently, that will split the Republican vote and benefit the Democratic party. Disgruntled and disgusted Republicans will mosey on over to support Sanders, as well as a chunk of Independents who already do.

Sam

[NightWatcher]

40. I'm laughing so hard I just peed my pants a little

Trump is going to rip the GOP apart and leave them with no option but falling in line behind him (which they won't do) or running a loser against him and our Dem nominee.

[Sgent]

41. Won't happen (edited)

Most of the states in the (R) primary are winner take all, just the first few are proportional. If he holds at 30% he wins easily on the first vote.

Compare this to the D's, who a proportional all the way, and have superdelagates that control 1/3 of the votes.

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The above is in error, the R's have as complicated a process for selecting many of their delegates as the D's.

http://goplifer.com/2015/10/22/how-a-trump-primary-win-could-go-sour/

[MohRokTah]

42. Letting this out now guarantees Trump wins.

They might as well just come out and say, "we don't trust the rank and file to choose, so we are going to do the choosing for you."

This will put Trump over the top of 50% now.

[Justice]

45. If this was the Democratic Party, the media coverage would be all about how we are in ruins

Instead, the coverage is more matter of fact, as if it is completely normal to have these kinds of discussions.

[DCBob]

46. This is going to piss off Trump.

He could actually go Third party. That may be what they want him to do.

[DFW]

48. Ideally, the Republicans would like for Trump to fade and be their cheerleader

He would spend his own money, and bring the crazies to the voting booth, and then the GOP could disavow them the day after the election, saying, "we don't know these guys."

As it looks now, Trump either forces them to do what he says or runs third party to spoil their party. Fine with me.

[Warren DeMontague]

50. Wow, that would be some shit, wouldn't it?

[Generic Other]

53. Brainiacs

[briv1016]

56. The GOP establishment owns the voting machines.

Rubio will be the nominee.

[Sunlei]

57. Trump will accept money to step down. Rs spend a billion on Romney primary, pay Trump to go away.

I bet Trump would leave for 50 million, all those Republican losers should split the costs.

[LanternWaste]

59. The last winning U.S. presidential nominee produced by a brokered convention was FDR in '32.

The last winning U.S. presidential nominee produced by a brokered convention was Franklin D. Roosevelt, in 1932.

For anyone unclear or vague on what a brokered convention actually is and what the process entails, the last two or three episodes of West Wing season six go into some detail during a fictional Democratic brokered convention.

[brooklynite]

60. I think Romney would be a HUGE mistake...

...they'd be much better "unifying" around another candidate in the existing field, unless Trump has an absolute majority.

That said, ANY brokered convention would be an admission of disorganization that would likely sink any nominee.

[Xolodno]

61. Unlikely.

Romney appears to be done with running for office and being a "brokered" nominee in this day an age means you are guaranteed to lose. So whoever goes in as the brokered nominee has to be comfortable with accepting they are basically there to take a bullet.

But then again....

If the GOP has already conceded defeat for the Presidency, they may have a brokered nominee to make their ticket less toxic and save some seats in Congress they might lose if Trump is the nominee. So there's that...