Arkansas State University on lockdown. Suspect surrounded by police. Active shooter but no shots

[applegrove]

fired so far. He crashed into a barrier with his truck. Vibes.

(Here is a link)

Arkansas State University: Armed man on campus, CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/10/us/arkansas-state-university-armed-man/index.html

[mikeysnot]

1. Active shooter....

but no shots fired???

[yeoman6987]

26. Very strange they are all going to colleges

What is the common denominator here? Seriously it is kinda weird.

[tkmorris]

2. How is he an "active shooter" if no shots were fired?

No offense intended, I'm really wondering.

[greymattermom]

3. Shooter no shots

Same as open carry, right? Probably legal in that state.

[SheilaT]

4. My question precisely.

Just carrying a gun doesn't an active shooter make, or we'd be able to arrest all those idiots out there who carry guns into supermarkets and restaurants.

[applegrove]

7. He rammed a barracade with his car. He has a gun. Active shooter it is. Even though he has not fired

a shot.

[SheilaT]

9. At the risk of nit-picking,

if he hasn't fired any shots, he's not shooting, therefore he's not an active shooter.

"Armed man, thought to be dangerous, rams barricade" would be far more accurate. Now if this guy opens fire, then we've got an active shooter.

As much as I abhor the guns and the gun violence in this country, using the language precisely and correctly would be helpful.

[applegrove]

11. I think active shooter isn't a literal description. It is a method of categorizing danger. He has a

gun. He's threatened the campus with his truck and with a gun in his hands. People need to take cover. Or they might get shot. He's an active shooter.

[SheilaT]

17. If they start calling every nutcase out there

with a gun an active shooter, after a while "active shooter" will be meaningless.

Words really do matter. If he hasn't fired any shots, he's not an active shooter.

[B2G]

19. Agree.

Armed man on campus seems more appropriate.

Same precautions would be called for.

[Eleanors38]

27. Had one of these at St. Edwards University in Austin. Campus locked down because...

someone was breaking into a car, then ran off. A witness thought he might have a gun. No shots fired, probably a common punk doing his criminal work.

[LiberalArkie]

5. JPD chief: "Shooter armed with shotgun in the back with two propane tanks ready to blow."

One of those armored vehicle on site

[gratuitous]

6. According to the rules, you have to wait

This good, responsible, law-abiding citizen is simply out exercising some very important constitutional rights, and we can't jump to any conclusions about what he might be doing until he's already done it. And even then, we can't know for sure, even if he makes a direct statement to the police or in open court about his motives. Mustn't rush to judgment; wouldn't be prudent and sensible.

Now, let me tell you what a great plan Donald Trump has for stopping every Muslim from coming into the United States, and how he's going to deport 12 million people cost-free.

[LiberalArkie]

8. Here is the suspects truck, proudly waving the U.S. flag

[LittleBlue]

10. How can an active shooter not fire a shot?

What am I missing?

[applegrove]

12. Active shooter is obviously a term to describe someone in danger of shooting. A guy with a gun who

rammed his truck into a barrier at a college campus is an active shooter. It tells the students and the police a description of the situation. So they know how to behave.

[petronius]

20. The phrase does have a pretty specific and generally agreed-upon definition:

"An active shooter is an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area"

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/office-of-partner-engagement/active-shooter-incidents

The circumstances you describe are obviously quite serious, but the phrase "active shooter" implies a somewhat different scenario...

[LiberalArkie]

13. Early picture of gunman pointing rifle out of vehicle

[B2G]

14. Is that a Gadsen flag? nt

[snooper2]

21. Could be, look at the brake dust on the front wheels though...

Should be doing maintenance on that shitty truck instead of listening to Mark Levin every day....

[B2G]

22. Looks like he just did a bunch of donuts.

Yeehaw!!

[Eleanors38]

28. Well, a NASCAR winner he ain't.

[herding cats]

25. Looks like it to me. nt

[LiberalArkie]

15. Another pic

[LiberalArkie]

16. New picture from KAIT TV

[alcibiades_mystery]

18. Just doing some donuts, brandishing my shotgun, and transportin' some propane

If anybody would have told me this sort of thing was frowned upon in Arkansas these days....

[snooper2]

24. dude got drunk and thought he was at ma-maws back yard

[Stallion]

29. More Likely Flipped Out Due to Final Exams

good luck kids

[LiberalArkie]

23. Man is custody at ASU