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AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:08 PM Dec 2015

Why are Americans so worried about terrorism, possibly enough to vote against their financial interests, when...

terrorism doesn't even kill as many people as domestic mass shootings, car accidents, and hospital errors? I mean, it's silly to be apathetic to all the death that happens in society and yet be hyper sensitized to "Islamic terrorism."

It seems to me that Americans are still letting the media and political leaders dictate what they should fear.

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Why are Americans so worried about terrorism, possibly enough to vote against their financial interests, when... (Original Post) AZ Progressive Dec 2015 OP
Terrorism is an added threat to what you listed upaloopa Dec 2015 #1
The Bigger the Lie, and the More it is Repeated, the More that truedelphi Dec 2015 #2
People figure you can have all the money in the world but if you get caught yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #8
Your more likely to be gunned down in a domestic mass shooting than in an Islamic Terror attack AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #11
Yeah yeah and you can fall off a ladder. Doesn't mean terrorism isn't real yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #12
But you'd sacrifice your other interests for a threat that is not as big as it appears to be AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #14
As long as it stay itty bitty, but I suspect they are growing not shrinking. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #16
Imagine if there was the same uproar for all these other causes of death in America. The people AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #17
Not even in the same stratosphere yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #19
The people are much more likely to vote in a president that would deal with terrorism than... AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #20
Well that is true which is why the democratic nominee whomever it is yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #22
Sure terrorism can be real. truedelphi Dec 2015 #30
Not me, I am way more afraid of poverty than I am of death. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #21
Same here. Death holds no terrors for me. hifiguy Dec 2015 #23
It's not that different from freaking out about mass shootings, frankly. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #3
This times a million. nt B2G Dec 2015 #6
It's Whiz Bang. Ron Green Dec 2015 #4
Americans NEED enemies. Maedhros Dec 2015 #5
Damn Skippy! nt MrScorpio Dec 2015 #7
The enemies have come to us yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #9
Bang. Spot on. hifiguy Dec 2015 #25
Bingo. If it was really about fear of bodily harm terrorism is way, way, way down on the list. But GoneFishin Dec 2015 #27
Of course, part of the reason that they don't bother to do the math truedelphi Dec 2015 #31
when the teevee is on during most waking hours and it's screaming terror...people are terrorized spanone Dec 2015 #10
It's a common cognitive distortion. Nt JudyM Dec 2015 #13
Here is why LittleBlue Dec 2015 #15
Same thing with mass shootings, yet we do nothing about them AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #18
media coverage instagram and other things JI7 Dec 2015 #24
Teh Stooopid. nt valerief Dec 2015 #26
The gd f----g media. Remember the last election when we lost so many seats. doc03 Dec 2015 #28
Many of them are insane paranoids. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #29
Terrorism has tail risk Angel Martin Dec 2015 #32

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. Terrorism is an added threat to what you listed
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:13 PM
Dec 2015

Also it is something people feel is the government's job to protect them from.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
8. People figure you can have all the money in the world but if you get caught
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:21 PM
Dec 2015

up in a terror attack, what good is the money then. Life is more important to money for these voters. I don't worry about terrorism but I'm not dumb enough not think it is real and dangerous.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
11. Your more likely to be gunned down in a domestic mass shooting than in an Islamic Terror attack
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:25 PM
Dec 2015

In the time after 9/11, domestic mass shootings have killed many more people than terrorist attacks in the U.S. Yet Americans are so apathetic to domestic shootings.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
14. But you'd sacrifice your other interests for a threat that is not as big as it appears to be
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:33 PM
Dec 2015

ISIS is not even Al Qaeda in international capability, and Al Qaeda has largely been neutralized from doing massive terrorist attacks since after 9/11.

Just look at ISIS' previous strategy of getting hostages and beheading them. Just for that, Obama started the Iraq war again attacking ISIS as well as getting involved in the Syrian war.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
16. As long as it stay itty bitty, but I suspect they are growing not shrinking.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:38 PM
Dec 2015

It will eventually be a way of life like Israel. That much I am sure of.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
17. Imagine if there was the same uproar for all these other causes of death in America. The people
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:39 PM
Dec 2015

should at least be consistent, sheesh.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
19. Not even in the same stratosphere
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:41 PM
Dec 2015

Totally different situation. And people are freaking out on gun deaths. They want something done just like people want something done about ISIS.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
20. The people are much more likely to vote in a president that would deal with terrorism than...
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:43 PM
Dec 2015

deal with the epidemic of mass shootings.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
22. Well that is true which is why the democratic nominee whomever it is
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:46 PM
Dec 2015

better take it seriously if they want to win.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
30. Sure terrorism can be real.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:17 PM
Dec 2015

There have been places in the world where it really is not safe to trvel - Mali for example.

But how much money do we keep throwing into our War on Terror?

We gave our military over 31 Trillion bucks to save us should we come under attack, yet Nine Eleven still happened.

And now that we have this new series of attacks, (Paris, San Bernadino) we will no doubt be pouring more money into the War on Terror.

In my rural county, we have not at all recovered from the economic collapse of 2008 to 2010.

Had terrorists shoved one fourth of my neighbors out of their homes, we would hearing about it for the next ten years, non-stop.

But the economic terrorists who did this to our nation are running the nation.



 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. Not me, I am way more afraid of poverty than I am of death.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:45 PM
Dec 2015

I would rather be dead that suffer the deprivation that comes with not being able to keep your head above water financially.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
3. It's not that different from freaking out about mass shootings, frankly.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:28 PM
Dec 2015

The latter are more likely to make one a victim than the former...but both are astronomically unlikely to happen to the average American. Ordinary murder, car accidents, medical misadventure, or just stuffing your face with too many Big Macs is a lot more likely to kill you than a terrorist or a spree killer.

However, none of those things are a major part of the 24/7 media cycle of FEAR, FEAR, FEAR.

Ron Green

(9,823 posts)
4. It's Whiz Bang.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:30 PM
Dec 2015

Seeing those towers fall was almost like some CGI effects in the Whiz-Bang movies at the Multiplex.

Hearing the neighbors talking about their new AR Something that fires 500 rounds a minute... that's exciting.

Fear and ignorance respond best not to real problems and solutions, but to Whiz Bang.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
5. Americans NEED enemies.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:32 PM
Dec 2015

We're lost without someone to fear and hate.

We've literally joined the Dark Side.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
27. Bingo. If it was really about fear of bodily harm terrorism is way, way, way down on the list. But
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 05:25 PM
Dec 2015

people are gullible and can't do simple math.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
31. Of course, part of the reason that they don't bother to do the math
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 08:22 PM
Dec 2015

Is how the media is egging us Americans on in our beliefs.

When Sunday night's top news story was that of a single "lone wolf" knife owner who stabbed a single person inside the London UK subway system, and within moments, that story is going viral as proof of more terrorism, you have to wonder. How did authorities know so soon he was a terrorist and not just a mental case?

I have noticed that the mainstream news has less time to talk about American cops killing the disadvantaged now that "TERROR TERROR TERROR" is the main theme.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
15. Here is why
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:37 PM
Dec 2015

Shooting happens at an abortion clinic. 80% of Americans assume they won't be near an abortion clinic. Shooting happens in poor neighborhood, most Americans rationalize by assuming they won't be in a slum anyway.

Terrorist attacks can happen to anyone anywhere. It's completely random. There is no way to avoid it, at least in the minds of people. So everyone feels like a potential target.

JI7

(89,254 posts)
24. media coverage instagram and other things
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:52 PM
Dec 2015

People get the wrong idea of how things actually are based on heavy coverage of certain things in the media.

doc03

(35,355 posts)
28. The gd f----g media. Remember the last election when we lost so many seats.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 05:30 PM
Dec 2015

The media played up Ebola where they had otherwise sane people worried to death
that we were all going to die from Ebola. When Obama sent military people over to help people thought they would all come back in a body bag. That was when they suddenly discovered ISIS. Fox News had their robots
worried sick thinking the world was coming to an end if you didn't vote Republican. Now even MSNBC can't
shut up about that f---g Trump for 5 minutes.

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
32. Terrorism has tail risk
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:11 PM
Dec 2015

the thing about terrorism that is different is that there a possibility of a massive attack that is so much larger than any possible increase in heart attacks, car crashes or even white gun nut school shootings.

We have had administration officials like William Cohen since the mid-1990's appear on TV with a bag of flour saying this much anthrax could kill everyone on the east coast.

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