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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOK, show of hands: Who thinks the donald is trying to get out of the race?
Count me in.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)It's like he is thinking well if I say this crazy thing I will surely sink in the polls and every time he does that he gets a bump.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)gratification. This can't be too gratifying right now...
tanyev
(42,626 posts)Oh, he might get a kick out of it for a few weeks, but when none of his crazy-ass ideas get implemented immediately, he'd blame everyone else and move on to a project more worthy of him.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Even he knows that he will kill the GOP chances if he wins.
He got what he wanted and will exit on top and will ride this wave of popularity for a long time.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)I am certain Trump has some really unsavory stuff he doesn't want public.
His brand is already taking a beating.
lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Save the next one!
3catwoman3
(24,054 posts)From a man whose favorite book is the Bible? (Ri-i-i-i-i-i-i--i-i-i-i-ight!)
Surely Mr. Trump is as pure as the proverbial driven snow.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)...to appeal to the base. He actually read that ban Muslims speech. Not ranted, read it calmly, as if his copy testers told him it would sell.
He's getting serious about it now.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)He's going to ride this wave until he can't ride it any longer. God help us if he wins the primaries and the General Election.
global1
(25,272 posts)As I think not only has he damaged the Repug brand - but he's damaged his own brand as well.
Before he got political - at least I could deal with his spiel because there was some entertainment value in his Apprentice series of programs. If you looked past his ego - some of the projects that they worked on in the Apprentice - especially the ones for charity had some redeeming value.
Now that he's become a political figure we really get a good look at the person that Trump is - and it ain't pretty.
I won't watch, listen to or even give him any consideration going forward.
I believe he damaged his brand beyond repair - except for those few low-info people that weigh on his every word and would follow him wherever he leads them. Fortunately I believe they are a smallest of small minority.
I also believe the business community that he deals with - whether domestic or foreign - will also view him much differently and will deal with him at an arms length if at all. I think he will become a 'pariah' in the business world.
He's lucky he's rich - because he'll have to live off of his past successes because his future won't be as promising.
That's just my opinion of this.
adigal
(7,581 posts)every word." You mean the 20% of Republicans who support him??? Hardly a few.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)stevil
(1,537 posts)His ego informed him he could do the "job" and he probably entered the race with enthusiasm and optimism. He's tired of campaigning and by now probably thinks the "job" is beneath him and if the masses beyond his sight line don't get him there - then its on them. He dreads being on call 24/7 for 4 years and not being able to look after his business interests. He will find a way to exit the race as a hero to his base and blame everyone else for his inability to go all the way. He will have bragging rights for the rest of his life. Baggers will say "That guy should have been President". He wins, but more importantly we win because he walked into the Republican Party as if it were a kegger, drank all the booze, kicked the ass of the smallest guy in the room and took a shit in the middle of the dance floor right before leaving. They will talk about him for years.....
lunatica
(53,410 posts)But now he's fallen for his own schtik
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)He bet Bill Clinton 2 million dollars the Republicans would NOT nominate him. LOL
jonno99
(2,620 posts)character in 'Brewster's Millions': 'None of the above' wins!
btw: great pic of the SoL: Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
Love it!
randys1
(16,286 posts)He knows the idiot cons or teaparty will dismantle everything due to ignorance and ineptitude and so on.
The first Clinton may actually not have benefited from the 3rd party candidate, Perot, but this Clinton will.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,201 posts)Maybe it's an ego thing, but if he's tired of running for president, there's nothing stopping him from saying "Well, America, it's been great" and heading back to Mar a Lago to golf.
LiberalArkie
(15,730 posts)right outside a hospital before he could ever allow himself to quit.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)that maybe he just keeps on saying more and more outrageous things to destroy his chances completely. The problem is that he has underestimated the crazy of the American public.
LiberalArkie
(15,730 posts)responsibility for anything that went wrong. There was always someone somewhere to blame. The problem is that the Republicans are finding out what they created, and none of them can accept the blame for it to correct it. In the past they would just blow of the crazy, the white supremes, the religious extremist, etc. Now that they have embraced them they can't find a way out of it. The only ones that the Republicans have that are semi-sane are at the bottom of the list. The only way out for them are some rules at the convention to allow some smoke filled rooms to make the decision who their candidate will be. But if they pick anyone at the bottom, none of the right will support the person.
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)Which is when it gets real. For now it's just playtime for rich boys
Iggo
(47,571 posts)You know, so they can ride in and save the day as the "sensible" candidates.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,869 posts)As long as the media keep broadcasting his craziness and his knuckle-dragging fanboys cheer him on, he'll stay in it. I wouldn't put it past him for a minute to go third-party if the GOP tries to kneecap him, because he cares nothing for the GOP (or the USA). If he does that, whoever the GOP does nominate will lose in a landslide and Trump will be the spoiler and get lots and lots of the media attention he lives for.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)SDJay
(1,089 posts)I do think he jumped in for publicity, much like he did last time. It was cynical and goofy but basically just another Trump sideshow from a clown who doesn't seem to care that the majority of the world sees him as a buffoon. Then he started winning. Then he started saying crazier and crazier things. Then his poll numbers kept climbing. I would imagine it dumbfounded him as much as it does the rest of us.
I think he's bought into the idea that he can actually win - not just the nomination, but the whole thing. Is there anyone in the world who's more of a megalomaniac than this scumbag? At this point I think he considers the presidency his rightful place in the world because he's, you know, so much better than everyone else.
I think he's all in at this point, and that scares the hell out of me.
When Dick Fucking Cheney thinks you've gone too far, you know you're out there in uncharted political rhetoric territory.
He's just going to keep going, and yeah, if the Rs get rid of him, he's not going to go quietly.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)He'll be in the mid forties by next week.
He'll break fifty percent and have a lock on the nomination if he calls for rounding up Muslims and putting them in concentration camps.
Denzil_DC
(7,277 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)He's either in this for the long haul or he's got an ace up his sleeve.
I just don't see him saying "beat up that black guy! ban all Muslims! censor the internet!" then saying "Fuck it I'm done"
CanonRay
(14,119 posts)His massive ego is invested now.
napi21
(45,806 posts)I think he is just trying to keep them riled up.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)He gets more TV time than anyone on the planet. It's a narcissistic egomaniac's every fantasy come true.
I bet he ends up making money on the whole spectacle. He will quit when it is to his advantage and he has gotten all he could out of his exploits.
adigal
(7,581 posts)If he wanted to get out, he'd claim someone was being unfair to him and get out. He is a narcissist, who loves the crowds and adulation. He loves the campaign. As is, the things he is saying could really hurt his businesses if he doesn't win. I think he wants to win, thinking he will be King Of the World, totally misunderstanding the role of President.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)He may be getting the crazies, but even he knows they're crazy. He's not stupid...and I think the shine is rubbing off the shinola. That's my take at present. But, is it ever getting interesting.
How will it affect his wealth, his business cronies, his family...I'm thinking they are no longer amused or totally on board.
Got to admit, it has juiced up the Primary Season.
RichGirl
(4,119 posts)...so dealing with commoners may get to him after a while...especially if they aren't all adoring him. And...the crowds he gets probably don't bathe on a regular basis...so...
MADem
(135,425 posts)that people will reject him.
He's probably going to have to call for concentration camps before people start to reject him--and even then, he'll probably have brownshirt cheerleaders hooting and hollering for more.
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)Skittles
(153,202 posts)he is a narcissistic bully
Texasgal
(17,048 posts)I think his hateful rhetoric is a blast for his supporters! It's actually quite scary how many people really like this idiot!!
BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)The candidate who runs for president as an attention-grabbing stunt, unexpectedly finds himself as a frontrunner, and tries to get himself out of it by sabotaging his own campaign-- except every crazy thing he says only makes him more popular.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)If he wanted to quit, he'd just quit the race.
He has an ego the size of Andromeda galaxy. He's delusional, and truly believes he can win this thing and that he'd make a totally AWESOME president. He doesn't have any idea that he hasn't a clue about what the Constitution actually says, how laws are made, how much power a president does or doesn't have. He thinks running the country is just like running one of his businesses, and who cares if he declares bankruptcy every so often?
I think he's in it for his version of the long haul. If he gets out before the end, meaning before the primaries are over, it will be on what he sees as his terms. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he does make a third party run if at some point it's obvious he won't get the nomination. And he'll still think he'll win that way, because he does not understand just how our political process really works, and how his third party run would just very neatly split the Republican vote, assuring the Democratic nominee will win the general election.
dickthegrouch
(3,184 posts)To quote a certain famous small green creature.
If he wants out, all he has to do is withdraw. Foolishness such as inciting others to hatred and riot is not the rational way to withdraw.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Bonx
(2,075 posts)He's terrible for the US.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)He's trying to fail, and it's a hit.
lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)a la izquierda
(11,797 posts)my husband thinks this is one huge trolling experiment.
I'm a historian. I view this whole thing a bit more darkly.