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TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:27 PM Dec 2015

"Baby Parts" PP video fakers get bad news from Supreme Court: Show us the MONEY.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/12/06/supreme-court-just-gave-some-very-bad-news-to-the-maker-of-those-planned-parenthood-videos/

On Friday, the group was denied an emergency appeal by Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, who oversees appeals from California, in an attempt to avoid a district court order forcing them to disclose fully a list of their key donors and supporters. (emphasis mine TD)

Since the emergency plea to the high court was almost immediately rejected as it was filed, it looks like the world will soon know who financed those awful videos after all. It’s about time – no longer will they be able to hide in secret behind a curtain while the group does its dirty work.

The group has been dodging for some time. The National Abortion Federation set everything in proper motion, after alleging in a lawsuit that the center’s members were only able to get into Planned Parenthood’s meetings by lying about themselves and falsely promising not to reveal the contents of those meetings.

A federal judge agreed and says it’s now time to cough up. Judge William Orrick isn’t one to mince words either, saying in the order: “It’s time to end this shell game.”
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"Baby Parts" PP video fakers get bad news from Supreme Court: Show us the MONEY. (Original Post) TalkingDog Dec 2015 OP
Excellent. Let's shine some light and... Moliere Dec 2015 #1
+1 daleanime Dec 2015 #2
Sunshine - the best disinfectant. Marie Marie Dec 2015 #13
Can't wait to find out who the funders are. Bubzer Dec 2015 #52
Don't fall into their trap. They want abusive comments to prove they will face 'retribution.' TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #3
I admit to a wave of schadenfreude SusanaMontana41 Dec 2015 #14
Or Karl Rove's. AT least Cheney did some stuff because he thought he was doing the randys1 Dec 2015 #51
Cheney, to paraphrase Cheney, can go fuck himself. SusanaMontana41 Dec 2015 #61
A few years or decades in prison klook Dec 2015 #16
They might....jail is a good possibility, also big fines Proserpina Dec 2015 #21
classic martyr complex . . . n/t annabanana Dec 2015 #34
Vengeance is the only motivating thought pattern these jokers have, no surprise they fear retribution. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #47
Can't they be sued moondust Dec 2015 #4
In civil court perhaps. But I'm not enough of an expert to weigh in. TalkingDog Dec 2015 #6
The CA AG's office is making noises about criminal prosecution. LeftyMom Dec 2015 #8
They used fake ID, they appear to have stolen at least one identity of at least one real person ... AlbertCat Dec 2015 #43
That sounds like fun for the AG's office. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2015 #62
If they caused damages, they can be sued and forced to pay damages. L. Coyote Dec 2015 #20
Libelous demonization moondust Dec 2015 #22
There could be punitive damages daleo Dec 2015 #24
no damages? three people dead, nine wounded in colorado springs, building almost destroyed, niyad Dec 2015 #42
+1 navarth Dec 2015 #55
What is it that you think this news article is about? jberryhill Dec 2015 #54
I saw that. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys. Photographer Dec 2015 #5
Can't wait to hear this one! Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #7
+1 n/t ejbr Dec 2015 #9
A Request RecoveringJournalist Dec 2015 #10
They'll NEVER report that. EVER onecaliberal Dec 2015 #11
LOL...when pigs fly. n/t Oilwellian Dec 2015 #29
Bad news fr them would be that they're facing conspiracy charges for the latest CO Springs slaughter Doctor_J Dec 2015 #12
It's not nothing SusanaMontana41 Dec 2015 #17
could we get them for conspiracy and accessories? niyad Dec 2015 #58
Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #15
Yes! HootieMcBoob Dec 2015 #18
fake video smith_70 Dec 2015 #19
K & R SunSeeker Dec 2015 #23
To quote the runner up of the last DU "You Call This NEWS?" Awards rocktivity Dec 2015 #25
k&r DesertRat Dec 2015 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #27
Might be interesting to see if Carly Friona's name is on the list of donors. She still lies about it Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #28
All in favor of freedom of speech gratuitous Dec 2015 #30
What do you bet the funders are republican operatives who coordinated with the republican congress? kimbutgar Dec 2015 #31
I would not be surprised Vogon_Glory Dec 2015 #46
Video fakers. Video fakers. Video fakers. Video fakers. Video fakers. Video fakers. Video fakers. Vi Enthusiast Dec 2015 #32
Let's see which slugs crawl out from under that rock. . . annabanana Dec 2015 #33
YAY!! marym625 Dec 2015 #35
Kick for truth Hekate Dec 2015 #36
Want to be that Fiorina is on the list? George II Dec 2015 #37
I don't think anyone at DU would take that sucker bet LynneSin Dec 2015 #39
K&R! Duval Dec 2015 #38
You are welcome. And thanks to you and all the others TalkingDog Dec 2015 #41
That splash you hear are the money rats leaving that sinking ship sarge43 Dec 2015 #40
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #44
Yay, can't wait! lark Dec 2015 #45
Good news. Expose them all. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #48
kick Angry Dragon Dec 2015 #49
Ginny Thomas, Clarence's wife was involved. A Blaze employee too. Watch. Schmice2 Dec 2015 #50
This is definately good news! d_legendary1 Dec 2015 #53
Is James 'booger' O'Keefe involved in this? navarth Dec 2015 #56
Seeing David Dalieden and Lila Rose face justice would be just as god n/t Vogon_Glory Dec 2015 #57
Given Citizens United, I never would have predicted this, but it's great news. merrily Dec 2015 #59
I wonder if PP can go after the deep pockets behind this fraud. Vinca Dec 2015 #60
K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #63

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
52. Can't wait to find out who the funders are.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:47 PM
Dec 2015

It'll be a full-on roasting within the fires of public awareness. Any corporate associates will lose a lot of business.
Any individuals will feel the full weight of public outrage.

TheBlackAdder

(28,218 posts)
3. Don't fall into their trap. They want abusive comments to prove they will face 'retribution.'
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:47 PM
Dec 2015

.


These guys are trying to justify that they will face some type of 'retribution' for their disclosure.

Granted, they are probably just projecting their own intents for the making of these videos, the creating of fake bank accounts and fictitious names, etc.. You know, all the shit that real terrorist organizations and money laundering fronts do! They deep down inside know that video was to incite violence, and they project that onto the pro-choice camp--because that's how they would act.


Let's try to be civil to abate their reasoning for secrecy.

I'm not saying you should not be angry, or protest, but not to incite harm to them in return.


.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
14. I admit to a wave of schadenfreude
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:04 PM
Dec 2015

You're right: Don't waste perfectly good karma on these idiots. I'm stockpiling mine so I can tap-dance on Dick Cheney's grave.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
51. Or Karl Rove's. AT least Cheney did some stuff because he thought he was doing the
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:45 PM
Dec 2015

right thing, as sick as that seems.

Rove did what he did, does what he does, to enrich himself and to increase the power of the worst people this country has ever spawned...or tied with worst with confederates

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
61. Cheney, to paraphrase Cheney, can go fuck himself.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:39 PM
Dec 2015

Karl Rove, Lee Atwater, Pat Buchanan … the list is endless.

klook

(12,167 posts)
16. A few years or decades in prison
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:09 PM
Dec 2015

is retribution enough for me. Well, ok - plus maybe a few million in damages.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
21. They might....jail is a good possibility, also big fines
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:58 PM
Dec 2015

The wheels of Justice move slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine....



Variation on a traditional proverb, appeared in various forms over the millennia. Traditionally refers to gods or (later) Christian God rather than justice. Early recorded form of sentiment by Euripides circa 405 BCE The Bacchae, line 882, translated as:
Slow but sure moves the might of the gods
Earliest printed version is Sextus Empiricus Against Professors (perhaps specifically Against the Grammarians) I.xiii.287; see “The mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small”, Oxford Dictionary of Proverbs; The Dictionary of Cliches James Rogers (Wings Books, Originally New York: Facts on File Publications, 1985), quoted by ESC at The Phrase Finder, Re: The Wheels of Justice... (March 19, 2009). Sextus quotes it as an existing Greek adage and gives a Latin form:
ὀ?? ?ɛῷ? ἀ?έ???ί?ύ??ί, ἀ?έ???ί ?? ?ɛ?ṯά,

Est mola tarda dei, verum molit illa minutim
The mills of the gods are late to grind, but they grind small.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Justice

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
6. In civil court perhaps. But I'm not enough of an expert to weigh in.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:10 PM
Dec 2015

There are barristers at DU. One of them might know.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
8. The CA AG's office is making noises about criminal prosecution.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:16 PM
Dec 2015

They used fake ID, they appear to have stolen at least one identity of at least one real person who definitely wasn't a participant, they lied on their state tax forms about the nature of their enterprise, and that's just what I can think of off the top of my head. And all of that occurred in the great state of California, where the legality of abortion (hell, we'll give you state funding to have one) is about as controversial as the idea that there are seven days in a week.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
43. They used fake ID, they appear to have stolen at least one identity of at least one real person ...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:22 PM
Dec 2015
... who definitely wasn't a participant, they lied on their state tax forms about the nature of their enterprise...

They'll attempt anything to do the Lord's good work....

or something....
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
62. That sounds like fun for the AG's office.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:45 PM
Dec 2015

Fake ID etc. Sounds like California will have fun going after them.


I don't agree with Jerry Brown about everything but I do think he's cool. Especially the way he balanced the budget by raising taxes.

And yes, I'm so old I remember when he was the YOUNGEST governor of California and was dating Linda Ronstadt.

Jerry's been the youngest governor of CA and the oldest governor of CA too. That's quite an accomplishment.

Like when The Who were called "the best rock and roll band in the world, the worst rock and roll band in the world, and the LOUDEST rock and roll band in the world" all at the same time. Multitasking.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
20. If they caused damages, they can be sued and forced to pay damages.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:35 PM
Dec 2015

No damage, what grounds? But, where damage lies, there is a suit.

moondust

(20,006 posts)
22. Libelous demonization
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:03 PM
Dec 2015

inciting defamation, funding cuts, harassment, and even murder requiring armed security to ensure the safety of staff and clients as well as public relations campaigns to promote the truth and correct the record.

niyad

(113,581 posts)
42. no damages? three people dead, nine wounded in colorado springs, building almost destroyed,
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:16 PM
Dec 2015

courtesy of "no baby parts" dear. unable to accept patients until rebuilt. all the acts of vandalism at women's health clinics across the country. will that do for a starter on damages?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
54. What is it that you think this news article is about?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:11 PM
Dec 2015

They are being sued. That's why their appeal of a preliminary order was before the court in the first place. This is a news article about a step in the lawsuit against them.
 

Photographer

(1,142 posts)
5. I saw that. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:10 PM
Dec 2015

I hope there's all kinds of fallout from the disclosures.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
12. Bad news fr them would be that they're facing conspiracy charges for the latest CO Springs slaughter
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:57 PM
Dec 2015

This is nothing.

 

smith_70

(28 posts)
19. fake video
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:25 PM
Dec 2015

The supreme court needs to make them take this video off the internet. Some people actually believe this thing.
and what Carly Fionna said is outrageous. Even a rather progressive friend believed what she said.

Response to TalkingDog (Original post)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
30. All in favor of freedom of speech
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:30 PM
Dec 2015

And it should be the public's right to know who's speaking. Why so shy, guys?

kimbutgar

(21,202 posts)
31. What do you bet the funders are republican operatives who coordinated with the republican congress?
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:57 PM
Dec 2015

The republicans are like a mafia crime family. They line up their ducks and set up their stings. The most devious of devious people.

Vogon_Glory

(9,132 posts)
46. I would not be surprised
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:39 PM
Dec 2015

I would not be surprised. The same people who foisted "tea Party" republicans on the country are probably up to their eyeballs in this.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
32. Video fakers. Video fakers. Video fakers. Video fakers. Video fakers. Video fakers. Video fakers. Vi
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:28 PM
Dec 2015

I hate fucking Video fakers.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
39. I don't think anyone at DU would take that sucker bet
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:54 AM
Dec 2015

I think we might see more high profile names on that list than the Ashley Madison list.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
41. You are welcome. And thanks to you and all the others
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:20 PM
Dec 2015

for pushing this up to the top of the Greatest page.

Vogon_Glory

(9,132 posts)
57. Seeing David Dalieden and Lila Rose face justice would be just as god n/t
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:20 PM
Dec 2015

Seeing David Dalieden, the guy who made the videos, and Lila Rose, a rabidly anti-abortion fanatic, facing criminal charges and civil suits, would be just about as satisfactory.

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