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grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:43 PM Dec 2015

"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do

is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

- Goring, super-Nazi


Can't be repeated enough.

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peacebird

(14,195 posts)
2. Can't tell you how many times I was berated as unpatriotic for marching against the Iraq war...
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:46 PM
Dec 2015

I still say if Hillary was "fooled" into voting for it, then her much vaunted intelligence is called into question. I knew better, so did Bernie, and millions of people across the globe.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. If she was fooled she is a
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:49 PM
Dec 2015

blithering idiot. But it was in fact the most craven, spineless, truckling sort of cowardice and shameless ass-covering. And anyone with an ounce of brains knows it.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. And on Iran and Afghanistan, let us hear from the man that wrote the book on war.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:52 PM
Dec 2015

'In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good.'

'There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.'

'The art of war is of vital importance to the state. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence it is a subject of inquiry which can on no account be neglected.'

'Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.'

Sun Tz




 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
5. Intersting in that we are fighting this 'war' exactly backwards while China sits on the sidelines.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:40 PM
Dec 2015
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. China is smart they let problems come to them, where we go out and find problems in the world.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:55 PM
Dec 2015

And some times start them. Notice too they didn't waste untold trillions on nuclear weapons either, just a few hundred because that will be enough.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
9. Absolutely. Those of us Boomers back in the 60s...50,000 Americans...Dead.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:18 PM
Dec 2015

I believe it was our first major war of Because We Can.

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