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panader0

(25,816 posts)
4. This case always reminds me of Van der Sloot and Natalee Holloway.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 08:23 PM
Dec 2015

Both Dutch (or in Pistorius' case, Dutch descent), both killed a pretty young woman,
both guilty.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
5. I didn't think about that.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 08:49 PM
Dec 2015

You're right about that. Van der Sloot killed at least two young women.

I hope they both stay in jail for a long time.

I still think Pistorius will get out of it because of his wealth and fame. I hope I'm wrong.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
7. I think there is a minimum sentence, but people are expecting he will get the lowest the judge can
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:20 PM
Dec 2015

somehow rationalize. It is supposed to go back to the previous judge, who only considered whether murder of Reeva was proven (not murder of whoever). She is supposed to be retired now, not sure if they will bring her back for this?
The panel of judges were interesting, made it clear that Pistorius' story was dubious (he was no thinking- but he was thinking, etc) and they should not even think about a retrial.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
8. I should probably RTFA.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:24 PM
Dec 2015

But what I heard didn't sound right, justice-wise.

The guy was given one sentence. Then all of a sudden he's given a much longer sentence, without a new trial?

Yeah, if I really cared much I would RTFA. But the way I heard the story left me WTF? Irrespective of his level of guilt, there is a question of due process. But maybe the story I heard just left out important pieces.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. In South Africa, the prosecution can appeal.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:31 PM
Dec 2015

Just like the defense can do here. They won that appeal based on the fact that he knew firing four shots into that door would kill whoever was behind it. They didn't even take into account that it was her. Just that he knew that he would be murdering someone. He had other options.

He murdered that woman. I think he meant to do it. I can only imagine her terror as she tried to hide from him that night. She had no chance. None. At all.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
11. I think he was a paranoid maniac who possibly did think there was a burglar
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:37 PM
Dec 2015

and that his "psychosis" (using the term in the popular rather than necessarily technically accurate sense), drove him to act irrationally at the time. Yes he had to know that shooting four shots through that door would kill whoever was behind it. I think it is quite possible he actually didn't know who it was and wasn't thinking straight at the time. That said, I'm not losing any sleep over it at all. It just sounded odd to me that the sentence could be changed so drastically. But if that is their law then his lawyer must have informed him of the possibilities. So, in the end it is probably more just. The original sentence did seem too light.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
12. I think I would've known where my gf was before I started firing off rounds, ya know?
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:43 PM
Dec 2015

When you're scared, the first person you'll be talking to would be the one you live with.


Like, - honey, did you hear that? What is that noise? I think someone is in the house. I'm getting my gun. And so on and so forth.

He murdered her. And he meant to.

But yeah, I think you're right also that he is a paranoid maniac. As well as a privileged scum.

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