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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:15 PM Dec 2015

This guy, in the '60s - another mass murderer - Charles Whitman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

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Charles Joseph Whitman (June 24, 1941 – August 1, 1966) was an American engineering student at the University of Texas, former U.S. Marine, and a mass murderer who killed 16 people.

In the early morning hours of August 1, 1966, Whitman murdered his wife and mother in their homes. Later that day, he brought a number of guns, including rifles, a shotgun, and handguns, to the campus of the University of Texas at Austin where, over an approximate 90 to 95 minute period, he killed 14 people and wounded 32 others in a mass shooting in and around the Tower. Whitman shot and killed three people inside the university's tower and eleven others after firing at random from the 28th-floor observation deck of the Main Building. Whitman was shot and killed by Austin police officer Houston McCoy.
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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. My mom was at UT that day. Still remembers it vividly.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:50 PM
Dec 2015

IIRC that was what finally got Texas to let its police departments use SWAT teams (they had previously thought that was just for ahem "urban" police departments, if you know what I mean).

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
2. I remember listening to it on the radio. Also Starkweather
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:54 PM
Dec 2015

in Nebraska. There have been so many since then.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. "The Walk of Death", I think it was called
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 11:13 PM
Dec 2015

I was negative 27 years old in 1949, so this is just from having read about it. WWII vet slips into a paranoid delusion and walks down the streets of Camden, NJ shooting 13 people. After a standoff, he surrendered. He was diagnosed with schizophrenia and spent the rest of his life (he only died a few years ago) in a hospital.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
13. I read that. I wonder if paranoid schizophrenia is similar to
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 11:24 PM
Dec 2015

what is happening to our vets today?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
14. Well fortunately we're much better today than 70 years ago (or even 40 years ago)
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 11:26 PM
Dec 2015

at interventions for PTSD. We still have a long way to go, but we've made huge progress. If you look at the sort of public stereotype of "The Crazy Vietnam Vet" and how much of a hold that had on people's imagination, you can see the contrast for Iraq and Afghanistan vets is very strong.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
15. Yes, back after Vietnam my brother had a friend holed up on
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 11:30 PM
Dec 2015

his grandfather's farm and it was well known that he was threatening anyone who would even try to get to him. My brother was the one exception. After we realized what was going on we got in touch with the new Vietnam Vets organization and asked them to come out and help with him. Thanks to them he is okay today.

So back then there wasn't much help.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. Philadelphia and Chicago started them in 1963 and 1964
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 11:03 PM
Dec 2015

A lot of southern cities looked on that as proof that segregation was a better system than the north had.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. No, but the earlier ones had gotten much less media attention
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 11:06 PM
Dec 2015

Howard Unruh in 1949 is the earliest example I can find of somebody shooting a bunch of people he didn't know.

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