This is looking McVeigh like

[malaise]

I feel it for all my family, friends and acquaintances in America.
The NRA has to be controlled - this is fucking madness.

[NutmegYankee]

1. If it proves to be that kind of event.

Then we as a country need to tackle the batshit insane rightwing before they really go off the rails under Hillary.

[malaise]

7. I'm wrong - it's looking more like a massive office argument

revenge act.

[NutmegYankee]

8. That's even worse - such carnage for something petty?

Fucked up times.

[malaise]

9. Agreed

but he was at the function - left and returned. I'd have to think it was pre-planned.

[HereSince1628]

18. I think the availability of the weapons was certainly pre-existing

I'm not so certain that the use of those things wasn't an impulsive act triggered by something at the workplace party.

Why that weaponry had been previously assembled is certainly something that will be explored in the investigation.

[Yorktown]

10. a massive office argument?

With 3 shooters, tactical vests and IEDs?

Boy, I sure don't want to work in the same office than you..

[malaise]

11. I'm the least of your worries

I've never ever held a gun - let alone get into arguments with co-workers.
By the way there were two shooters - the office terrorist and his girlfriend.

[Yorktown]

13. 2 shooters, OK. With tactical vests, automatic weapons and IEDs

And you call this an 'office argument'??

[Nye Bevan]

2. If it was any kind of Federal building, tax office, etc., I would be very inclined to agree.

But at this point the choice of target is baffling.

[randys1]

3. Haring now the police are in shoot out with suspects and one in custody

[lindysalsagal]

4. I doubt at this point that their "reasons" will make any sense at all.

Speculating about motives is a waste of time. Derangement will never make sense to the rest of us.

[toddwv]

5. Not to be irreverent,

but you can tell the shooters aren't Muslim. It doesn't have the "signature" and they would have already released everything they have on the shooters and the GOP Congress member, along with some of their Democratic Party brethren, would have already sent the "Syrian Refugee Offshore Detainment Act of 2016."

It's just sad that we are having these constant "mass shootings" and we can't even get Congress to drop the stay on funding gun violence research.

[malaise]

6. Same as last Friday

You just know. Something has to give re access to these guns.

[GummyBearz]

14. Turns out not to be the same as last friday

Very religious muslim guy who went to Saudi Arabia to get a wife... and the wife helped out with the preplanned attack. That sounds pretty different from the abortion shooter who was a lone rightwing white male with guns and a grudge. Lets not lump them in the same group.

[malaise]

16. Yep

This looks like workplace violence mixed with religious fervor.

[GummyBearz]

19. I can see the workplace being targetted for a couple reasons

I think radical religion is the reason why he was planning an attack.

The choice of shooting up the work place could have been for a number of reasons, such as

1. He was angry with his coworkers over something and wanted to directly target them
2. He was not angry with his coworkers, but he knew the area well, where to park, where everyone would be, how to get out the quickest, etc.

[Gormy Cuss]

20. lone rightwing VERY RELIGIOUS CHRISTIAN white male

We tend to downplay religion as a factor when it's Christianity involved.

[melman]

12. Except it turns out that they are

Oops.

[GummyBearz]

15. I'm glad you could tell they weren't Muslim by a few non-proofs and conspiracy theories

Oh wait, they are Muslim. Back to the conspiracy theory drawing board... maybe try to find a CIA connection?

[Rex]

17. Whatever resemblance it had to a rifle club was lost long ago to the tea bagger types.

Now it is the elite army for the GOP.