It’s a Giant Fcking Mystery Wrapped Inside A Riddle Inside an Enigma

[phantom power]

Give me a break:

The shooter who killed three and injured several others at the site of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs remains something of an enigma, and while both sides of the political aisle have chimed in about the shooting it isn’t clear at all that he was particularly or specifically motivated by politics to commit his crimes:

If a Muslim man shot up a synagogue and told the cops “No more Jews,” would his motives be enigmatic?

If a black man shot a cop and said “fuck the police” while being arrested, would we have to wait to figure out his motivations?

But if a crazy loner gun nut shoots a bunch of people in front of a planned parenthood, carrying explosive devices with him, and states “No more baby parts,” which JUST SO FUCKING HAPPENS to be rhetoric tossed around by right to lifers the past few months, and it’s a GIANT FUCKING RIDDLE what his motivations might have been. It’s a real fucking whodunit. Lemme guess, you probably think Dr. Tiller’s killer just had a thing against lab coats.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2015/11/29/its-a-giant-fucking-mystery-wrapped-inside-a-riddle-inside-an-enigma/

[niyad]

1. well, we cannot have the mayor actually announcing that this is a woman-hating homegrown,

white domestic terrorist, now can we?

[phantom power]

2. Nope, that would make the wrong people uncomfortable

[jeff47]

6. Well, after he did so, he would no longer be the mayor.

Loooooooooots of fundies in Colorado Springs.

(Hence the need for an "abortion clinic&quot

[niyad]

7. and the fundies whine because it resembles a "fortress"--gee, I wonder why that is necessary?

[ProfessorGAC]

54. Seriously! Why Not?

How does that hurt the mayor to say something like "highly charged rhetoric with little basis in fact from the political campaigns may just have made this a more dangerous place"

Doesn't he look like he's truly concerned about the safety of the folks who live there?

OK, i know there is some reasonably high degree of nutjobbery there, but still concern that inflammatory rhetoric inflames seems like something that would look good on the next election poster.

[niyad]

56. because this is fundieville, home of fungus (aka focus on the family), new life, the eveangelical

air force academy, and scores of ultra-reichwing churches, organizations and nutjobs, to all of whom johnny boy is beholden.

[ProfessorGAC]

57. Well, I Did Say I Knew There Was Nutjobbery There

Didn't know it was quite that bad!

[niyad]

58. unless you are here, it is difficult to imagine just how bad it really is. I am thankful to live in

a slightly more sane part of the city, which reduces my contact with these hate-filled idiots slightly.

[ProfessorGAC]

59. Thanks Goodness

There are yahoos everywhere, but your description tells me the concentration is ridiculously higher in your neck of the woods.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

3. Of all the OPs I've ever read, this. Just this.

I would rec this infinitely. The author was 100% dead on.

There's no damn 'mystery'. Fiorina and her fellow hatemongers got exactly the sort of lunatic response their hate incites, and then suddenly wander around going 'I haven't a clue why that happened!'

[Enthusiast]

33. It deserves hundreds of recommendations!

[Baitball Blogger]

4. Addressing the elephant in the room.

It's not that they can't connect this terrorist with Christian-right rhetoric. It's that they would have to expose the fact that these Christian right church groups covertly approve of what he did.

And, once we come to terms with that fact, where do we go from there?

[DLevine]

5. Spot on. nt

[Iggo]

8. Right Wing Christian Terrorist.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

26. Right wing Christian terrorist coward

Let's start calling them cowards.

[Moostache]

28. White Christian Male Terrorist works for me...

I assume right wing whenever "Christian" gets attached to anything because while I am not a believer, I have found it far more likely than not that a progressive Christian has a totally different interpretation of Christ than "evangelicals" do. Also, left-leaning Christians tend to focus a whole lot more on the central messages of Christ (love, peace, charity, understanding) than the dogmatic verses the right-wing nutjobs focus on.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

9. And, btw, Dear should be interviewed.

He should be asked specifically 'Why did you say 'no more baby parts'? What have you heard about Planned Parenthood and 'baby parts', and where and from whom did you hear it? Did you watch the GOP Presidential debates?'

[Rex]

13. Never happen...the M$M is fully invested in suppressing anything to do with RWwhite terrorists.

They have to do all they can to try and get a RWinger elected into office. Otherwise they get fired by their RWing paymasters.

HAD this been a LW black terrorist, we would already be setting up checkpoints all over the country and calling for a state of emergency. However, this guy just happens to be the Right color and associated with the Right political party.

I wonder if they stopped at Burger King to get him a burger?

[Raster]

39. Of course the M$M is fully invested in supressing RW white terrorists...

...they helped create them...

“Stochastic terrorism is the use of mass communications to incite random actors to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable. In short, remote-control murder by lone wolf.”

...aided and abetted by the M$M.

[truth2power]

42. Yes, stochastic terrorism is what it is...

That term needs to repeated until it worms its way into the consciousness of the dimwits who are cheering on Carly Fiorina and her ilk.

[Dustlawyer]

49. That's the reason MSNBC had guest "journalists" on last night talking about how it's not their job

to speculate what "no more baby parts" meant.

[Rex]

61. They are lazy. Whatever happened to investigative journalism?

Yeah and they don't fool us, but I guess the GOPers out there eat it up hook, line and sinker.

[Rex]

10. Well this is just further proof that RWwhite domestic terrorists are not to be discussed in the M$M.

They can even drop the Teabagger/Xtain angle I don't care! I would love to see them get enough guts to go against their paymasters and start calling him a white domestic terrorist.

Never happen...we get 'shooter' so that the kiddies don't learn about the horrible RWing in this country. Might cause them to vote Democratic when they grow up.

[Rex]

14. We already know why, "no more baby parts" can only have one meaning.

The M$M clearly has an agenda.

[napkinz]

12. yep

[Moostache]

29. Great tweet....I'd add one more profile

White cop = Felt threatened, had to shoot to kill (as many shots as possible)
Dark skinned victim = "thug", had it coming, probably was up to no good anyway

The right wing duplicity on this is disgusting but oh so predictable...

[90-percent]

15. I suspect

I suspect that at this very moment the POWERS THAT BE in Colorado Springs are COACHING this suspect on the narrative they want him to describe for his motivations.

His first public statement will be something like; "Planned Parenthood? What the fuck is that? I was there to rob a bank!"

-90% Jimmy

[valerief]

16. Too bad Unsolved Mysteries isn't on the teevee anymore. It could make for

dynamite episode.

Such a puzzler.

[malthaussen]

17. I hate to be a downer

But I believe he could stand in the middle of the village square naked and painted blue, screaming "I hate abortion and want to kill everyone who goes to Planned Parenthood," and the media could actually play it straight and cover it faithfully, and it still would get a "big deal" from the mass of people in the country who don't give a rat's fundament about women's rights. And it would probably get more sympathy from the 30% or so who want to quash them. So in this case, remaining "unclear" about Mr Dear's obvious motive may have an unintended silver lining. Oh, I don't deny for a moment that the RW media want to suppress this, but I think they misjudge the power of their own rhetoric. We have been brainwashing the people of this country for generations to hate women, and that kind of conditioning is not going to be obliterated because somebody shoots a few people. We take that sort of thing in stride in this country.

-- Mal

[jtuck004]

37. I like how the United States teaches its citizens to be individualistic. almost

pathologically. If you can't do it by yourself, wait for someone that is better than you to tell you it's ok, or go watch tv.

Too many are put in the cross hairs and obey. Some never stop.

[Omaha Steve]

18. Thanks for posting

K&R!

OS

[Tipperary]

19. Well, he is going to be going away for a long time.

[jalan48]

20. Good post.

What I find frightening is that the media didn't immediately come out and condemn the Republican candidates for fomenting this type of behavior. By allowing the "confusion" about his motives to remain they are encouraging more of this to take place. Right wing candidates are free to spew hate speech with no media repercussions.

[Tarc]

21. That's the point I've been trying to get across here, too

What the Republican candidates are doing is no longer considered "protected speech" in my book. These are deliberate, concerted efforts on the part of Fiorina, Cruz, Trump, and others to get their right-wing base to "rise up" and save the poor, innocent children that Planned parenthood is (falsely) alleged to be killing.

If some imam in an American mosque goaded his followers to behead non-believers, they GOP would be screaming for his arrest.

[Moostache]

30. Don't forget Mark "God's laws override the Constitution" Rubio...

I am literally sickened by these GOP nut jobs...my stomach actually hurts listening to them and see the results of their inciting to violence...sam shit happened back in the 90's too during Clinton's second term.

[lastlib]

23. What I find frightening is that...

...I'm not hearing our Democratic "leaders" out there condemning them!

Did these people put their balls into escrow, or something?? Where ARE they? Or am I missing something? I know some have, but we need to hear from a LOT MORE!

[jalan48]

24. Great point. No outrage means it's a "debatable" issue.

[druidity33]

31. Bernie did...

he said it was a direct result of the Republican rhetoric surrounding the abortion issue...

[Nay]

32. Bernie is the only one so far. Telling, isn't it? nt

[lastlib]

41. True there. But it seems he stands alone. Where are the rest?

[NBachers]

47. Hillary Clinton on the Colorado Springs shootings: “Today and every day, we #StandWithPP,”

Bernie Sanders: "We proudly #StandWithPP of Colorado Springs and the brave law enforcement personnel who fought to protect it."

Martin O'Malley: "My thoughts and prayers are with those in Colorado. #StandWithPP"

http://time.com/4128435/presidential-candidates-respond-to-planned-parenthood-shooting/

Either admit that you were erroneous in your statement that Democratic "leaders" didn't condemn the shootings, or show me that Time is lying.

[frylock]

55. I see nothing resembling condemnation in those statements.

[lastlib]

62. Are these the only leaders we have??

No Senators, Congressmen, Governors? Where is Wasserman-schultz? Party top dogs?

I see ZERO condemnation of GOP/RW anti-abortion rhetoric in those pitiful little tweets. I want to see some meaningful Democratic/progressive ROAR directed at these basturds who incite this shit. Crap, I want to see the fires of HELL unleashed against them! Not three tweets and crickets.

[lastlib]

22. Don't let these bastards play with subatomic particles......

It takes about two functioning neurons and two firing synapses to determine that, yes, this WAS motivated by the killer's religion! Dumbasses.....!

1. Place palm-sized rock in right hand.
2. Apply rock to forehead (swiftly).
3. Repeat in loudest possible voice, "STOOPID!"
4. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

25. To listen to Republicans this is one less Liberal loose on the streets.

[pansypoo53219]

27. the teevee gnewz people don't want the blood on their hands. OUT OUT DAMN SPOT!

[Enthusiast]

34. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!

Giant fucking riddle!

[struggle4progress]

35. This is the guy who told his NC neighbor not to touch him because

he was a government agent and that having a metal roof keeps the government from spying on you

[malaise]

36. Nailed it

M$Greedia is totally and completely dishonest.

[Hepburn]

38. I'm sure with Mr. Dear it was inappropriate toilet training by liberal parents.

That is probably the next bullshit we are going to hear! Pure simple to me what caused the PP shootings in Colorado Springs.

[Paka]

40. Bingo!

It's a hard one, I know.

[ThoughtCriminal]

43. Col. Mustard has not been cleared yet?

When are they assigning Inspector Clousaeu to the case?

[billhicks76]

44. Right Wing Mentally Ill And Unaccountable

Has anyone ever wondered if maybe FOX News uses subliminals to promote hate? I'm being serious. Maybe these republicans are victims too of something insidious. I only hear all this crap from people who watch FOX. Republicans that watch almost no TV don't spew this garbage.

[ErikJ]

45. He hates Obama too.

His neighbor being interviewed by CNN today said he gave him some anti-Obama pamphlets.

[PosterChild]

46. K & R eom

[Stuart G]

48. k and r...

[marble falls]

50. "If it doesn't fit the narrative, spin whole cloth." The GOP motto.

[merrily]

51. My guess: Putting together little airplane models with lots of tiny parts drove him crazy.

I haven't tried putting together one myself, but I think I can relate.

Now, if I could just figure out why he took out his insanity on people at Planned Parenthood.....

very heavy

[lonestarnot]

52. Pugs think they are coy.

[Eleanors38]

53. "Is the head dead yet? The boys in the news room have a running bet..."

The Narratives™ should be obvious, now: Political killings are due to (1) mental health probs; (2) NRA. If Jimmy Carter can call the GOP "extremist" in 2004 (August, PBS, to Jim Lehrer) ANYBODY can.

The Far Right is by far the most powerful force in U.S. politics today. You DO NOT cross them up. I'm laying $$ the MSM DOES NOT refer to the GOP as extremist (let alone abetting terrorism) in a routine news story.

[spanone]

60. five days later and still no translation of 'no more baby parts' ...

what strange language was mr. dear speaking that no one can translate these four words?

call in more experts.

[niyad]

63. we may never know--all the records are sealed.