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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:21 AM Nov 2015

Muslim taxi driver shot on Thanksgiving in back by customer after conversation about ISIS

“He started the conversation and began to ask questions like, ‘You seem to be like a Pakistani guy. Are you from Pakistan?’ ” the driver said in an interview from his bed at UPMC Mercy, where he is being treated for a bullet wound in the upper back. “And I said, ‘No, I’m from Morocco. But I’m an American guy.’

“Then he continued the conversation. He began to speak about ISIS killing people. I told him ‘Actually, I’m against ISIS. I don’t like them.’ I even told him that they are killing innocent people. I noticed that he changed his tone and he began to satirize Muhammad, my prophet, and began to shift to his personal life. He mentioned that he has two kids and was in prison for some time.

“So it was this kind of stuff until we got to his destination. He asked me to wait for a little bit because he forgot his wallet in the house. I waited for just five minutes, I think, and I noticed that he came out of the house carrying a rifle in his hand. I noticed him coming toward me. I didn’t hesitate. I (made] a fast decision to leave and drove my taxi away because I felt he was going to do something. There is danger. He would shoot me or something. I felt like he had the intention to kill me.”

The driver said that as he sped away he heard a couple of gunshots, one of which blasted out the back window of his cab and struck him. The incident occurred between Flowers Avenue and Tecumseh Street, and he was able to drive a couple of blocks further to Mansion Street, he said, where he had to pull over. He then waved down a passing car and got someone to call the police.



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http://www.post-gazette.com/local/city/2015/11/29/Muslim-taxi-driver-shot-on-Thanksgiving-in-Pittsburgh-calls-attack-a-hate-crime/stories/201511290154

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Muslim taxi driver shot on Thanksgiving in back by customer after conversation about ISIS (Original Post) kpete Nov 2015 OP
This is one of those stories that just leaves me speechless Marrah_G Nov 2015 #1
Wackos feel emboldened by some of the reckless politicians we have. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #2
I think rw hate radio has much to do with it Marrah_G Nov 2015 #3
It absolutely does. In fact, it's very difficult to find many talk shows that are not filled RKP5637 Nov 2015 #12
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winnah! nt raccoon Nov 2015 #7
Reckless indeed! I think every Republican asjr Nov 2015 #10
Wackos gotta wack! It's what they do. longship Nov 2015 #17
So sad. I do think many of them fantasize what goes on in the ME as a fun thing. Pathetic. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #26
...and the gun manufacturers just sit back and count their money as the bodies drop. n/t Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #42
Mostly cuz legislators won't legislate their trade d_legendary1 Nov 2015 #62
I agree. I have come to see the NRA as Still In Wisconsin Dec 2015 #72
We have always had firearms. Mojorabbit Dec 2015 #66
Alien implants? longship Dec 2015 #67
They absolutely do. Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #41
And the media n/t malaise Dec 2015 #69
It should be pretty easy for the cops to arrest the perp in this case... Charge him with hate crime peacebird Nov 2015 #4
Huh? ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #5
He wanted to shoot a Muslim. He didn't need a reason. CanonRay Nov 2015 #9
Actually a bad guy with a gun, which means the gun nuts should not have a problem Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #14
Good subject matter for a graphic. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2015 #19
I wish a movement would start among black men to get concealed carry permits CanonRay Nov 2015 #32
Mr. Canon: Google pictures Huey P. Newton Gun Club... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #39
More like ending up with 2naSalit Nov 2015 #61
I Think He Was Looking To Shoot Pretty Much Anybody ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #48
By going to fetch the weapon w0nderer Nov 2015 #23
OK by Me! ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #31
Who are the real terrorists? GoneFishin Nov 2015 #6
Stupid American terrorists fueled by hate radio and hate pols. They're Spawn of Hate Talk. nt valerief Nov 2015 #34
+10. FOX/GOP Hate Media should be abolished, look what it's created in 20 years. appalachiablue Nov 2015 #40
and wtf is up with this? tk2kewl Nov 2015 #8
Cops often aren't on the top rung for smarts. And some likely agree with him. Pathetic. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #13
This is why we don't let policemen play with subatomic particles....... lastlib Nov 2015 #30
I don't care about his story 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #11
That's what is really bothering me PatSeg Nov 2015 #53
boggles the mind tk2kewl Nov 2015 #63
Another awful story in what is becoming an awful country to live in. sinkingfeeling Nov 2015 #15
agree. This is horrible but reflects unfortunately the mix of misplaced hate and gun availability IMO Person 2713 Nov 2015 #21
This is what the .01% buys. They buy pols to spew and legislate hate. They buy valerief Nov 2015 #47
How did this guy, who previously spent time in prison, get a gun? onecaliberal Nov 2015 #16
A gun show, probably. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2015 #20
Probably not, most studies say Lee-Lee Dec 2015 #71
Because he was Tarc Nov 2015 #24
So it seems. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #44
News to the killers in many minority neighborhoods. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #49
Well, two out of three FrodosPet Dec 2015 #75
Probably stolen. Most prohibitions are easy to evade. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #43
It's his gawd-given right in the Constitution. It's in the cold, dead hands clause. valerief Nov 2015 #50
Out of the want ads, more than likely jmowreader Dec 2015 #68
Most get them from family and friends willing to do a straw purchase or ignore their past Lee-Lee Dec 2015 #70
Un fucking believable liberalnarb Nov 2015 #18
Sadly it's completely believable. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #22
FOX and CNN still looking for a motive SHRED Nov 2015 #27
He's not arrested for shooting a guy? radhika Nov 2015 #28
Probably a Christian white male shooter, so it's okay. nt valerief Nov 2015 #52
Just speechless. WTF? eom LittleGirl Nov 2015 #29
"sometimes when the evidence is not there and we don’t have the proper witnesses…" Demit Nov 2015 #33
The reactions in this thread make me think most of DU is unaware of the large number of bias crimes Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #35
"you all"? C'mon Blue... druidity33 Nov 2015 #64
Every time you post, it's to lecture treestar Dec 2015 #73
obviously the shooter was standing his ground greenman3610 Nov 2015 #36
This is my MSA... where racism can be found-a-plenty... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #37
Hey, that Muslin was armed with a taxi! ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2015 #38
Three days after and no arrest neohippie Nov 2015 #45
Scumbag bigot. Lock him up for life prouddemfromaustin44 Nov 2015 #51
Just another law abiding SwankyXomb Nov 2015 #54
White people do a lot of effed up stuff FrodosPet Dec 2015 #76
Why is there no arrest? leftynyc Nov 2015 #55
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #56
I'd arrest whoever is in that house leftynyc Nov 2015 #58
Another RWing terrorist shoots an innocent American trying to do his job. Rex Nov 2015 #57
Well what the hell did you expect? Daniel537 Nov 2015 #59
The only thing that can stop a bad Christian with a gun is a good Muslim with a gun Bucky Nov 2015 #60
Damn Solly Mack Nov 2015 #65
Logically, it's time for taxi drivers with brown skin to ignore white male calls for a ride. HuckleB Dec 2015 #74
I see what you did. marmar Dec 2015 #77
Sure! Sounds like a plan FrodosPet Dec 2015 #78

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
1. This is one of those stories that just leaves me speechless
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:30 AM
Nov 2015

and very nervous about where our country is headed.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
3. I think rw hate radio has much to do with it
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:38 AM
Nov 2015

Which is terrifying considering the effect it had in Rwanda.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
12. It absolutely does. In fact, it's very difficult to find many talk shows that are not filled
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 10:27 AM
Nov 2015

with hatred. Some of the things they say are so outrageous I really can't understand any reasonably sane and intelligent person believing what they say. Basically, much like war, there is big money in hatred. Some humans are often such pathetic little things.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
10. Reckless indeed! I think every Republican
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 10:01 AM
Nov 2015

running for the presidency has uttered something against our country. In this case the man who asked to be able to go into his house for money and came back with a rifle belongs in prison so he will not be able to kill.

longship

(40,416 posts)
17. Wackos gotta wack! It's what they do.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 10:43 AM
Nov 2015

That is why they need so many guns.

Wack! Wack! Wack!

It is the wacko thing to do. What is a wacko to do when they only know WACKA-WACKA-WACKA-WACKA! (Bullets flying)

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
72. I agree. I have come to see the NRA as
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 10:45 AM
Dec 2015

basically a business/corporate lobbying group. They profit greatly from the sale of an unsafe product. They are not so different from the big tobbacco lobbyists back in the 1970s and 1980s who insisted that cigarettes didn't cause cancer.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
66. We have always had firearms.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 03:21 AM
Dec 2015

I want to know why things have changed since I was a kid. People were not like this back then. We did not have people shooting up the place like this years ago. Is it overcrowding? Exposure to chemicals? Culture?

longship

(40,416 posts)
67. Alien implants?
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 03:30 AM
Dec 2015

Who knows. If I had to guess wildly, I suspect the ascendency of the Moral Majority and the Christian Coalition beginning in the late 70's. That is when we took a fairly hard right turn.

Elimination of protections did the rest, I suspect. (E.G., equal time provisions, etc.)

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
41. They absolutely do.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:04 PM
Nov 2015

Whacko politicians and whackos on AM hate radio. If the frontrunner for the Republican nomination can call for a protester to get his ass kicked at a political rally, then we've normalized this kind of violence in general society. It becomes permissible to take someone out for being Muslim, or liberal, or gay, or...on and on and on.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
4. It should be pretty easy for the cops to arrest the perp in this case... Charge him with hate crime
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:42 AM
Nov 2015

And attempted murder.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
14. Actually a bad guy with a gun, which means the gun nuts should not have a problem
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 10:32 AM
Nov 2015

with this Muslim getting his own gun, right?

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
32. I wish a movement would start among black men to get concealed carry permits
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:29 AM
Nov 2015

en masse, well publicized, even if they never actually buy a gun. White people would shit their pants and we'd have gun laws in a heartbeat.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
39. Mr. Canon: Google pictures Huey P. Newton Gun Club...
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:01 PM
Nov 2015

You are late to the party. And no, we didn't get "laws in a heartbeat."

2naSalit

(86,622 posts)
61. More like ending up with
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 01:45 PM
Nov 2015

something even worse than we have right now, daily shootouts and ambushes.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
48. I Think He Was Looking To Shoot Pretty Much Anybody
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:09 PM
Nov 2015

This guy was just a convenient target. He's a sociopath and belongs in jail.

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
23. By going to fetch the weapon
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:00 AM
Nov 2015

doesn't he show 'planning'
as in attempted pre meditated murder (murder 1)
?

Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #5)

appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
40. +10. FOX/GOP Hate Media should be abolished, look what it's created in 20 years.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:02 PM
Nov 2015

Horrible story of Pgh bigot wanting to kill Muslims, for shame-

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
8. and wtf is up with this?
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:57 AM
Nov 2015

"Pittsburgh police released a statement with some details of the shooting but they have not determined whether the incident was motivated by the driver’s race or religion."

lastlib

(23,236 posts)
30. This is why we don't let policemen play with subatomic particles.......
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:22 AM
Nov 2015

It takes about two functioning neurons and firing synapses to determine that, yes, this WAS motivated by the drivers' religion! Dumbasses.....!

1. Place palm-sized rock in right hand.
2. Apply rock to forehead (swiftly).
3. Repeat in loudest possible voice, "STOOPID!"
4. Lather, rinse, repeat.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
11. I don't care about his story
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 10:07 AM
Nov 2015

I just want the bastard who did this caught.

What does the guy look like?

Why hasn't anyone released a description?

The driver said he has been driving a cab with Cranberry Taxi Service for a month and the vehicle was equipped with a video recorder. Police did not say if they have reviewed any video and a spokesperson for Cranberry Taxi Service could not be reached.


What the hell? Seems to me the Police is really dragging their feet here

He asked me to wait for a little bit because he forgot his wallet in the house. I waited for just five minutes, I think, and I noticed that he came out of the house carrying a rifle in his hand. I noticed him coming toward me


What is the address to the house where he got the rifle from?

Have they talked to the occupants?

Do the occupants know who the shooter is?

I bet if a Muslim man did this to a White christian cabbie we'd have all this information in a matter of hours and a matter of minutes if this guy shot up a police car.

PatSeg

(47,445 posts)
53. That's what is really bothering me
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:22 PM
Nov 2015

about this story. They have the guy's address and presumably video as well. Why has there been no arrest or warrant to search the house?

valerief

(53,235 posts)
47. This is what the .01% buys. They buy pols to spew and legislate hate. They buy
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:09 PM
Nov 2015

media to relentlessly drum out the hate talk. They buy both pols and media to celebrate killing machines (arms). They buy pols to legislate the dismemberment of civil protections, like education and rights to assemble. They buy pulpit mouths to spew hate and fear. Everything is going as planned.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
24. Because he was
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:04 AM
Nov 2015

a, White
b, Hetero
c, Male

The more of those one hits, the easier the path is to many things.

Response to Tarc (Reply #24)

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
49. News to the killers in many minority neighborhoods.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:11 PM
Nov 2015

How do they get their guns?

Please reference the Pink Pistols.

Please see rapidly-rising rates of female gun ownership.



Most stereotypes are quite easy to puncture.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
75. Well, two out of three
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:50 AM
Dec 2015

The suspect is a male, probably hetro (but we don't know as a fact), but not white.

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/city/2015/12/02/Pittsburgh-police-obtain-warrant-for-Hazelwood-man-in-shooting-of-cab-driver-who-claims-it-was-a-hate-crime/stories/201512020221

December 2, 2015 3:43 PM

By Lexi Belculfine / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Pittsburgh police today arrested a taxi passenger who they said shot the cab driver who picked him up at Rivers Casino early Thanksgiving morning.

Anthony L. Mohamed, 26, was arrested at 10:45 a.m. in his Hazelwood home. He faces charges of attempted homicide, aggravated assault and recklessly endangering another person, court records show.

http://www.post-gazette.com/image/2015/12/02/ca20,0,2448,2428/AnthonyMohamed.jpg

The taxi driver, a 38-year-old Moroccan immigrant who requested anonymity out of fear for his safety, and leaders of the Islamic Center of Pittsburgh described the shooting as a hate crime to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. At a press conference at Pittsburgh police headquarters this afternoon, police would not comment on whether the shooting was a hate crime, citing an ongoing investigation.

~ snip ~
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
43. Probably stolen. Most prohibitions are easy to evade.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:07 PM
Nov 2015

The key is to find & prosecute the punk.

In the meantime, we should speak out against the hate mongers. The Democratic Party is mostly cowed. The MSM is "he said/she said," and cowed. Same with abortion rights

It is us or nobody.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
70. Most get them from family and friends willing to do a straw purchase or ignore their past
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 07:37 AM
Dec 2015
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/09/150916162916.htm

The idea of criminals getting their guns at gun shows or crooked dealers is lately myth, spread by the prohibitionists who don't really want to stop it they just want new laws.

And while straw purchasing is illegal, both it and attempting to buy from a dealer and lying on the form are Federal felonies that are very, very rarely prosecuted, so people keep doing it.

Hell, they didn't even prosecute the girlfriend who did the straw buying for the columbine killers.

radhika

(1,008 posts)
28. He's not arrested for shooting a guy?
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:09 AM
Nov 2015

That's a crime regardless of motivations. No perp named in the article?

Something else is going on.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
33. "sometimes when the evidence is not there and we don’t have the proper witnesses…"
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:30 AM
Nov 2015

"sometimes when the evidence is not there and we don’t have the proper witnesses, it makes the job [take] a little bit longer than an immediate response, but we will respond, and I think that’s a credit to our police force."

What does that mean? What are "the proper witnesses," as opp. to just witnesses?

Oh gosh, the police will respond—and that's a "credit" to them! What, because they're not usually expected to "respond"?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
35. The reactions in this thread make me think most of DU is unaware of the large number of bias crimes
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:45 AM
Nov 2015

that constantly happen in the US. Thousands a year, every year. Most are motivated by racial bias, well over 3,000 a year and 60% of those are crimes against African Americans. Next comes crimes motivated by bias against the victim's sexuality, about 1,500 official FBI cases a year and it's mostly gay men and trans women who get attacked.
Then comes crimes motivated by bias against the victim's religion, about 1,200 a year, and more than 60% of those are against Jewish persons or those thought to be, about 15% toward Muslims and those thought to be. Smatterings of anti Catholic, anti Protestant, but it's Jews then Muslims basically.

The point of my post is that this is not a new thing, it is a constant in US society. The real question is why have you all been so sanguine about these crimes until now?

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
64. "you all"? C'mon Blue...
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 10:54 PM
Nov 2015

a lot of us have been upset about stuff like this (and speaking out, marching, writing letters, etc) for a long time. You're right. Injustice is HERE and has been. When people here appear so shocked, i think it's because it's something so blatant it's hard to believe it went unanswered. No need to denigrate.



treestar

(82,383 posts)
73. Every time you post, it's to lecture
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 10:49 AM
Dec 2015

DU - once again, you do not care about this victim at all, and are using this to chide other DUers.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
37. This is my MSA... where racism can be found-a-plenty...
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:49 AM
Nov 2015

Just look for the knuckle dragging listeners of hate speech, and the stalkers of persons from other cultures being marginalized by the Republican candidates.

The sound of IQs dropping is no less deafening here in SW PA, mostly directed all this time by the Scaife newspapers.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
38. Hey, that Muslin was armed with a taxi!
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:00 PM
Nov 2015

Could have held a bomb, or lots of guns, or weapons of mass distraction or worstest, an IUD! We should be cheering the shooter for making Muricca safe for Murricans.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
45. Three days after and no arrest
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:08 PM
Nov 2015

Wait so this happened on Thanksgiving day, at the address of the shooter or at least where he stores a rifle and there has been no arrest? The Police will respond eh? unless they sympathize with the shooter?

 
51. Scumbag bigot. Lock him up for life
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:12 PM
Nov 2015

It's thanks to Faux News and the RW media that so many people in this country feel empowered to do this crap. Makes me ill...

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
55. Why is there no arrest?
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:28 PM
Nov 2015

They know where the scum lives and I'm sure the driver has given a detailed description of the scum. What's the freeking hold up?

Response to leftynyc (Reply #55)

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
58. I'd arrest whoever is in that house
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:42 PM
Nov 2015

They let an ex-con get hold of one of their guns (going with the argument it wasn't his house). How about a blanket BOLO for this scumbag?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
57. Another RWing terrorist shoots an innocent American trying to do his job.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:35 PM
Nov 2015

When will someone hold the RIGHT WING responsible for all these acts of domestic terrorism?

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
59. Well what the hell did you expect?
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 01:19 PM
Nov 2015

When you've got the media and "mainstream" politicians, including some self-professed liberal Democrats, ginning up xenophobia against Muslims this type of shit is going to happen. I only fear that the worst is yet to come.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
60. The only thing that can stop a bad Christian with a gun is a good Muslim with a gun
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 01:23 PM
Nov 2015

If this taxi driver had just had the wits to gun down this crazed terrorist first, I'm sure he'd be a hero celebrated on Fox News and at Donald Trump rallies for the foreseeable future

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