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lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 03:15 AM Nov 2015

How the Obama Administration Cut the Number of Homeless Veterans by 50%

Great article and interview with Julian Castro, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.

Mic: Can you explain a little more about how housing-first works?

JC: The idea behind housing-first is to get a homeless person into permanent housing — not transitional housing or shelter, but permanent housing immediately. That's based on the notion that housing has a very stabilizing influence on a person. So, if someone is homeless and they're out of a job, they may have an addiction, or they may have a mental health challenge. Having their own apartment allows them to address the other issues much more successfully.

The fascinating thing about housing-first is that it flipped the usual dynamic of public policy. The usual dynamic of public policy is that we expect responsibility from someone, and then we give them an opportunity. Here we give them the opportunity of permanent housing right away, and that allows them to help take the responsibility necessary to improve their lives — to address their employment situation, to address a mental health challenge or addiction that they have. We ought to learn that lesson as we look at other kinds of policies in the United States.

HUD-VASH vouchers are given to veterans who are homeless and they're put into permanent supportive housing. That's long-term, and includes supportive access to supportive services that they need, whether it's related to employment or health care or mental health or things like that.

Much more here:
http://mic.com/articles/128837/in-4-years-obama-cut-the-number-of-homeless-veterans-on-the-streets-by-50-here-s-how#.5BjXpaevW

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How the Obama Administration Cut the Number of Homeless Veterans by 50% (Original Post) lovemydog Nov 2015 OP
Exactly. They need permanent, not temporary, housing. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #1
Housing first is exactly the right way to go Recursion Nov 2015 #2
I read today that Las Cruces, NM lovemydog Nov 2015 #4
Virginia and Utah have done this statewide Recursion Nov 2015 #5
Fabulous. lovemydog Nov 2015 #7
Very good points. Also, global poverty and global inequality have plummeted over the past 20 years Recursion Nov 2015 #8
Also, violent crime in America lovemydog Nov 2015 #10
LOL yeah, I have had to shove FBI spreadsheets under people's noses Recursion Nov 2015 #11
Oh, I can relate. lovemydog Nov 2015 #12
Apparently the 7 is finally going to go down to Chelsea now? Recursion Nov 2015 #13
Yeah. lovemydog Nov 2015 #15
If only they did not keep this fact a secret! n/t bobGandolf Nov 2015 #3
They broadcast it pretty loudly Recursion Nov 2015 #6
President Obama mentioned it again at the Turkey pardoning. lovemydog Nov 2015 #9
K&R betsuni Nov 2015 #14

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
1. Exactly. They need permanent, not temporary, housing.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 03:21 AM
Nov 2015

That is the only way they will have stability and access to treatment and the job market.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
4. I read today that Las Cruces, NM
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 03:33 AM
Nov 2015

has brought veteran homelessness down to virtually zero, and Albuquerque and Santa Fe expect to bring it to near zero within one or two years.

Yes, let's expand this model.

Whatever is working, let's keep doing it. We owe it to our veterans for the sacrifices they've made.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. Virginia and Utah have done this statewide
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 03:35 AM
Nov 2015

Virginia has done it for veterans statewide, and has literally ended veteran homelessness in the Commonwealth. Utah has gone a step further, and applied it to everybody in the state. They're not quite at 100% yet (I doubt you ever could be) but it's been an amazing result.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
7. Fabulous.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 03:43 AM
Nov 2015

There's a lot of good going on in our country and the world. It's easy to forget it.

Another amazing fact: from the end of World War II to 1970 scientists & others cut the number of people in the world going to bed hungry in half. From 1970 to 1990 they cut it in half again. And from 1990 to now it's been cut in half again. Don't quote me precisely on those numbers, but I did read something very similar to it, and that scientists believe we can cut that number in half again in the next 20 years.

So, it's not all armageddon out there.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. Very good points. Also, global poverty and global inequality have plummeted over the past 20 years
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 03:45 AM
Nov 2015

This really is overall the best time to be alive in human history.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
10. Also, violent crime in America
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 04:08 AM
Nov 2015

is down - way down - since the 1950's.

And less of the world is at war with each other than at any time in the 20th century.

Occasionally I tell my friends this stuff and they don't believe me. So I suggest they look it up. They rarely do, lol.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
11. LOL yeah, I have had to shove FBI spreadsheets under people's noses
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 04:15 AM
Nov 2015

Maybe it's a media effect. When the murder rate is much higher, murders don't get reported much. Now that they are lower than they ever were in the 20th century (literally), any murder can cause some press.

It's funny: my mom went to NYC for the first time a few years ago, and was terrified (she's from rural Texas). Her only exposure to New York City came from watching Law & Order, and she was convinced she was going to be murdered and stuffed in the trunk of a car.

I asked her to call me once her bus got there. She said she was fine, and that the part of the city she was in was really nice. In her words, "I mean, it's not like Hell's Kitchen or anything."



As politely as I could, "Mom, if you just got off an intercity bus, you are literally in Hell's Kitchen. Now, the good papaya juice stand is about three blocks east..."

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
12. Oh, I can relate.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 04:23 AM
Nov 2015

I used to live in Hell's Kitchen. My parents were terrified. I told them 'the chances of me dying are less that where you live because I'm not driving a car.' They didn't believe me. I have to say it was a bit rough back then. If I had bought my little railroad flat at that time I'd have made a fortune. The doorman to the building got some friends together to buy two apartments. He lives on the top floor now, his buddies right next to him.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. Apparently the 7 is finally going to go down to Chelsea now?
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 04:29 AM
Nov 2015

Another side note: I've lived in Mumbai for the past two and a half years. I now look at New York as a quaint, small village.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
15. Yeah.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 04:35 AM
Nov 2015

Mumbai will give you perspective on big cities.

I enjoyed saying I live on a tiny island off the coast of America.

That's a line from Spalding Gray.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. They broadcast it pretty loudly
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 03:36 AM
Nov 2015

The administration's success against homelessness hasn't remotely been undersold by the government.

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